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 « Many beings believe more willingly in the power of the evil one than in the divine power. Man is so far from heaven that he prefers to admit the notion of the supermundane in evil rather than in good. »
[Celestial message from Roland de Jouvenel]

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Where is he ? Does He only exist?

If so, why does He let us suffer?

The faith

You who reject God

You who want proof

The chance, the miracles

Why does He not reveal himself?

Why doesn't He punish the bad?

Why does He ordeal those He loves?

 « I have noticed that the Angels rarely pronounce the name of God - no doubt because humanity, by losing the sense of the sacred, has trivialized it (I am not even talking about the use that has been made of it in the course of history: "holy" wars, "holy" Inquisition…). But when our Masters pronounce the "HE" or the "HIM"☆ « To speak of God, the Angel almost always used the pronoun Ö, which in Hungarian is neither masculine nor feminine, but both at the same time. The expression Ö clearly indicates the unity of the Father and the Mother, and I infinitely regretted not being able to express it in the other languages. » , we are touched in the depths of our being. »
[ Gitta Mallasz "Dialogues with the Angel" ]

What is God?

 « A superior force guides us all,
this is what you call God. »
["Karine after life"]

 « God is beyond the bounds of human understanding. »
[ R. Bernard, Grand Master of the Rose Croix ]

 « God marked His presence even in the insignificant details of Creation. »
 [ "Annaëlle Chimoni's book" ]

 « The only way to find God is to find Him in His creation. »
(Gandhi)magnifying glassAuthorContributions of Mahatma Gandhi on the subject of:

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 « It is only by developing his knowledge and his sensitivity that the human being will be able to perceive his divine presence. »
[ Alain Joseph Bellet, 'Dialogues with the spirit world' ]

 « From sign to sign you will reach Him, He who can be read through the canvas . »
[ Saint-Exupéry ]


 ☞ The Universe, life  under the eye of the scientist.

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Where is he ? Does He only exist?

If so, why does He let us suffer?

The faith

You who reject God

You who want proof

The chance, the miracles

Why does he not reveal himself?

Why doesn't He punish the bad?

Why does He ordeal those He loves?

Where is God? Does He only exist?

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The question is not "Does God exist?" He exists.
but rather "Why doesn't He help us? Why doesn't He manifest Himself?"
When a father teaches his child to walk, when he wants him to come to him, he stretches out his arms; but without ever touching him, he retreats when he advances.
And if the child falls, cries, calls... the father does not move.

 « The king was seated at the very end of the aisle. His soldiers, armed to the teeth, were waiting for one of us to move for pierce him with their arrows. Yet we knew the king to be good and we could even make out a pleasant smile on his face. Suddenly one of those who was there in the crowd rushed into the alley, and crossed the soldiers of the guard. Not one however moved and he found himself in front of the pedestal. The king left his throne and rushed towards him: «My son, at last you are here! The king wept and the one he called his son too.

 God ardently wishes that we go through the trials of life, which are like in this story only wooden puppets only intended to ordeal us. How many of these obstacles are the fruit of our own imagination? »
 [ "Annaëlle Chimoni's book" ]

Where is He ?

Where is God? But right here, all around us! In every man, every woman.

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When in despair, I called on God, I looked up, believing him in the heavens, or around me. But I couldn't see anything, I couldn't even imagine it; He was nowhere...
Today I understand why: in fact, he is inside me. It permeates my inner being
☆ Excerpt from the page: "Taking-back-control" :

Every being is connected to their inner Self,
which is connected to God.

 Our inner being

 « In you there are two characters, one terrestrial, stuck to matter, mired in its heaviness, and the other celestial, letting itself be carried by the light. The moment you conceive your two poles, you become greedy for unity and begin your quest for purity. But that's also where the trouble begins! In the innocence of unconsciousness you found a certain tranquility, operating in the same patterns for generations, fit to taste the pleasures of the flesh.
 However, as soon as your consciousness opens to greater lucidity, your thirst for clarity comes up against the shadows.
 In the grip of an existential despair, your mind then plays monumental tricks on you. You become the prey of grief, terrible doubts, loneliness and your impatience.
 We are with you more than ever in these wanderings. Because then we recognize in you the flame, the inner fire.

 Then begins an interior dialogue between your soul, which has already recognized us, and us who are your servants, your companions on the way. At your side, ready to support you in the difficult passages, smiling at your stammerings as a child of light.

 In your heart of hearts, ego of earth and soul of light manifest themselves to each other and show themselves in turn. There is no point in adjusting them with a master's hand, there is no point in wishing for their fruitful friendship. Their role is not to oust each other. Thus you grow, by making in you the union of your part of incarnated man and your part of brilliance of light. It is there, in the balanced axis between these two aspects of yourself, that you touch that you touch the new dimension that allows you to Over-Live (among earthly torments). Then your personality of light irrigates your being incarnated in matter for a happy birth: that of the new Man in you, an incarnated reflection of the Father Creator. »
[ Brigitte Quéro, "Spiritual Messages"]
following...
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So it can only be through my inner being that I can communicate with Him. Hence the usefulness of a well-understood meditation .

 « No priest ever told me that God was in me and that I could directly reach him in the being that he was in me, without any intermediary. »

"To love without expecting in return")
 magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Maddly Bamy on the subject of:

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 ☞  The human soul

 « I believe that we are all God. Even though we look different on the outside, we are the same on the inside. When we become aware of the spiritual person, we begin to discern the light of God within that person. We then understand that we are all one and the same person, all made of a divine spark. »
(J. Van Praagh, 'Dialogues with the Beyond')magnifying glassAuthorContributions by James Van Praagh on the subject of:

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 « I was convinced deep down that what was God was within me. »
(Maddly Bamy, "Love Without Expecting Return")  magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Maddly Bamy on the subject of:

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 « Man and God are one. »

[Elie Wiesel, 'Hasidic Celebration']

 « There is only one Being, and therefore only one Soul.

 We are all of the same stuff. »
[Inspired message to Neale Walsch]

  You are a very small being of creation,
  and yet you are HER picture.
  And that's what you radiate.
 [ Dialogues with the Angel ]

 « There is nothing in heaven, on earth or in hell that can lead you away from the love of God, except yourself, except your own ego. »
[a reading by Edgar Cayce]


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Where is he ? Does He only exist?

Why does He let us suffer?

The faith

You who reject God

You who want proof

The chance, the miracles

Why does he not reveal himself?

Why doesn't He punish the bad?

Why does He ordeal those He loves?

 If it existed,
would there be so many misfortunes?


How not to revolt when one suffers or when one sees suffering? When only silence echoes our cries?

Until we understand that this life is an experience for our soul
☆ Excerpt from the page: "The purpose of life" :

The ultimate goal

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The goal of existence is to pass
from the navel-gazing stage to self-abstraction.
We understand that one lifetime is not enough.


« Every soul must become aware of itself little by little.

 In evolution, the mineral will become vegetable, the vegetable will become animal and the animal will become human. It is the long chain of life. »
(Hélène Bouvier, medium, "Mission of souls in the afterlife")

 « The purpose of our life during our passage on Earth, then after our death, in the various worlds of the beyond, is an increasingly complete realization of our being. »
[ Patricia Darré (medium) ]

 « The soul-personality must become aware of itself. In reality, there is no other reason for the human presence on earth. All circumstances, all emotions, all experiences are aimed at this one end.
 Follow Jesus' advice: "Seek first the kingdom of God (in other words, progress towards knowledge) and everything else will be added to you." »
[ R. Bernard, Grand Master of the Rose Croix ]

- And what is according to your views, the purpose of our life?

 « Amassing experiences. Man asks more of life than food and food. Some consider themselves satisfied when they have ensured their external well-being; but most yearn for something more. Behind their actions and gestures, there is an ideal. »
(Henry Ford)

following...
, that our true life extends far beyond this one☆ Excerpt from the page: "Why life" :

What is life?

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 « At the beginning, the germ of the soul is already no bigger than a seed. But it is a spark of Divine Essence.
 By its essential nature, it is immortal and indestructible. But just as a seed must be planted in the darkness of decaying soil for it to sprout, so the germinating soul must be planted in matter. »
[ Franchezzo Farnèze & Pierre Jovanovic "The explorer of the beyond" ]

 « Poor blind humans, how I wish I had the power to enlighten you, each and every one, with the light that is the understanding of life. »
[Paqui, "Heavenly Talks"]

 « A being is never born for nothing, no existence is vain or free. The souls that inhabit our bodies did not come down to have a good time. We each have a role to play, a mission to accomplish, which is not known to us from the outset.

 Every existence is precious, every moment is capital. »

[ "Annaëlle Chimoni's book" ]

following...
, one cannot understand that the silence of Heaven is the very foundation of our ordeal here below. If the reason were revealed to us, ordeal would immediately lose its meaning. Doubt and silence are necessary to reveal ourselves to ourselves.

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The little seed aspires to become a flower or a tree.
Then the gardener digs the earth, places it in it, fills it in, and waits.
In its night, with the cold, the rain, the heat, the pod softens and rots. When it cracks, the little seed thinks it's dying and panics; but she discovers the light, and the gardener smiles at the pretty sprout that is pointing.

 « The problem is that people no longer believe in God. They only believe in themselves, so they do their little will, and of course, it doesn't work, or not for long. So they say that life is bad, and stay in their corner. So there, you know, God does not insist. He knows how to push the door if you leave it open, or even a little ajar, or even closed and He sees light coming through below. But if you close your heart and stay in the dark, well, he won't force the lock. Because it leaves man free to choose. »
(F. Caragnon, "Jade and the Sacred Mysteries of Life")


Home and site MAP > God >  Points What is God?

Where is he ? Does He only exist?

Why does He let us suffer?

The faith

You who reject God

You who want proof

The chance, the miracles

Why does he not reveal himself?

Why doesn't He punish the bad?

Why does He ordeal those He loves?

The faith
in whom, in what?

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When we are unhappy, when we are in pain, we need to understand why.
But what if God does not manifest himself? that he lets evil happen and does not answer our prayers...

We reject it! Him and his laws – different depending on the man in whom He confided.

Well. But then... who or what to turn to? Continue to live without understanding anything and let ourselves be guided by our (low) instincts?

The way, the answers, can only come from deep within ourselves; where our true Being resides
☆ Excerpt from the page: "Recover" :

Every being is connected to their inner Self,
which is connected to God.

 Our inner being

 « In you there are two characters, one terrestrial, stuck to matter, mired in its heaviness, and the other celestial, letting itself be carried by the light. The moment you conceive your two poles, you become greedy for unity and begin your quest for purity. But that's also where the trouble begins! In the innocence of unconsciousness you found a certain tranquility, operating in the same patterns for generations, fit to taste the pleasures of the flesh.
 However, as soon as your consciousness opens to greater lucidity, your thirst for clarity comes up against the shadows.
 In the grip of an existential despair, your mind then plays monumental tricks on you. You become the prey of grief, terrible doubts, loneliness and your impatience.
 We are with you more than ever in these wanderings. Because then we recognize in you the flame, the inner fire.

 Then begins an interior dialogue between your soul, which has already recognized us, and us who are your servants, your companions on the way. At your side, ready to support you in the difficult passages, smiling at your stammerings as a child of light.

 In your heart of hearts, ego of earth and soul of light manifest themselves to each other and show themselves in turn. There is no point in adjusting them with a master's hand, there is no point in wishing for their fruitful friendship. Their role is not to oust each other. Thus you grow, by making in you the union of your part of incarnated man and your part of brilliance of light. It is there, in the balanced axis between these two aspects of yourself, that you touch that you touch the new dimension that allows you to Over-Live (among earthly torments). Then your personality of light irrigates your being incarnated in matter for a happy birth: that of the new Man in you, an incarnated reflection of the Father Creator. »
[ Brigitte Quéro, "Spiritual Messages"]
following...
, in silence and sincere questioning.
You will not “hear” this inner being, but it will remain attentive, and if a word (read or heard) resonates with your expectation, you will feel a disturbance mixed with deep joy.

 What is faith ?

 « Faith comes in its time and the will of man can do nothing about it.

 (...) God is the most abstract notion there is. No voluntary step, no effort of the intellect, no prayer, can make you love God if in you the desire for God does not exist. »
[ "To those who seek" ]

Open-mindedness allows us to rise above our ego. We then realize that Life goes beyond our small existence, and that everything has a meaning, including our suffering.
It is with this understanding that faith comes, because it reconciles with life.

 « Faith is your spiritual compass. »
[Celestial message from Roland de Jouvenel]

 « Like a blind man in winter who searches for fire with his palms. And he finds it. And he lays down his staff and sits down near it, his legs crossed. Although he knows nothing of fire, the way you know something, you who see. He has found the truth of his body, for you will observe him who will no longer change places.

 (...) The blind man, Lord, knows nothing of fire. But he is, from fire, lines of force sensitive to the palms. And he walks through the brambles, because any moult is painful. Lord, I go to You, according to your grace, along the slope that makes becoming.

 (...) That is why I walk, forming prayers which are not answered, and having for guide, so blind I am, only a weak heat on my withered palms. »
[ Saint-Exupéry ]

 « In order to light the candelabra of the eternal flame, there was only pure oil left for one day. Judas Maccabeus could have decided to wait eight days or take ordinary oil, which was possible. However, he decided to light the candelabra from the first day and God made it remain lit during the eight days of the production of the new oil.

 This is what we celebrate at Hanukkah: take one step towards God, he will do the rest. Begins to climb the mountain, it becomes plain. Let a little light escape from your heart, it will dispel the thickest darkness. »
 [ "Annaëlle Chimoni's book" ]

 « To have faith is to believe without seeing. »
[ Sylvie Lorain-Berger, "The messengers from beyond" ]

 Reproach of Christ to Thomas: « Blessed is he who has not seen and who has believed. »
[ Celestial Messages from Pierre Monnier ]

 « I don't understand people who demand answers in matters of faith. For one who believes, there is no question; for those who do not believe, there is no answer. »
[Elie Wiesel, 'Hasidic Celebration']

 « My faith in God is so rooted in me that it seems to me as certain as a direct experience. »
(Gandhi)magnifying glassAuthorContributions of Mahatma Gandhi on the subject of:

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 « I care first that your God is more real to you than the bread you sink your teeth into. »
[ Saint-Exupéry ]

 « Day by day I am more and more convinced that He alone is real and that everything else is without reality. »
(Gandhi)

 « God suffers from human ingratitude beyond anything that, through analogous suffering, you can imagine.

 Jesus is the love of God in his human form, it is for this very reason that Jesus is God, and that it was the thought of God that came to meet a humanity drowned in selfishness and personal greed. »
[ Celestial Messages from Pierre Monnier ]

 « He who has faith can only fear himself. »
[ "To those who seek" ]

" What is faith ?
The certainty that God exists or that the soul is immortal?

Pierre Jovanovic, ("Investigation into the existence of Guardian Angels")

(One implies the other, but the soul is shown to be immortal☆ Excerpt from the page: "Contacts with the afterlife" :

The considerable progress made in the field of resuscitation has elicited fantastic testimonies. And at the same time, the advent of the Internet has not only made it possible to confront them, but to reinforce them with a continuous stream of authenticated cases.

It is also remarkable to note that these testimonies corroborate what the religious texts and mediumistic messages assure us .

 NDE, EMP, EMI... What is it?

  « The NDE or EMP ( Experiencing Temporary Death in french), a subject well known today to the general public, are experienced by people («experiencers. ») who, following an accident or health problems, find themselves clinically dead for a few seconds or minutes before being revived. If some don't remember anything, others make strange testimonies of what they experienced during this period of time. What is interesting and what has drawn attention to the phenomenon is that these experiences, reported by people of different cultures and religions, have commonalities
following...
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 ☞ What does faith mean?
 ☞ Faith can't be controlled. So how do you get out of it?


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Where is he ? Does He only exist?

Why does He let us suffer?

The faith

You who reject God

You who want proof

The chance, the miracles

Why does he not reveal himself?

Why doesn't He punish the bad?

Why does He ordeal those He loves?


You who reject God

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  « Many of those who refute God, who feel the inhuman side of certain natural mechanisms, many of those in their revolt, are closer to us than certain blind believers. These sincere men have faith, but they don't know it. »
[ "To those who seek" ]
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If God exists, He must suffer to see those who, faced with the misfortune of a neighbor, thank Him for having spared them.

If God exists, He has nothing to do with those who love Him from the outset, without asking questions, out of fear or interest
 « Man must choose God. Ready-made solutions only serve to give a clear conscience to those who like to sleep and live in peace; so as not to hunt down the truth, one pretends to have found it. Now, they say to Kotzk, the revelation itself, which has become habit and facade, can only appear suspect. »
[Elie Wiesel, 'Hasidic Celebration']

If God exists, He has no need of sheep bleating his praises.
 « That Israel (the Jewish community) , instead of confining himself to fasting and prayer, rids himself of goods dishonestly acquired, the possession of which is a defilement.
 "This is the fast I prefer: to untie the bonds of wickedness, to welcome the poor wanderers into your home, when you see a naked man clothe him and never, never hide from your neighbor who is like your own flesh. »
(Book of Yom Kippur)

It's necessary to rebel against the suffering of others. We must to be indignant at the death of a child.

God has planted man on his two legs and encourages him to come and question Him, seek to understand.

 "Stand on your feet, he said to Ezekiel, and I will talk to you. »
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 « At the beginning of my life I did not believe in God or in prayer. »
(Gandhi)magnifying glassAuthorContributions of Mahatma Gandhi on the subject of:

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Home and site MAP > God >  Points What is God?

Where is he ? Does He only exist?

Why does He let us suffer?

The faith

You who reject God

You who want proof

The chance, the miracles

Why does he not reveal himself?

Why doesn't He punish the bad?

Why does He ordeal those He loves?

You who want proof

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 - Where to find the proof of the existence of God?

 « You have a proverb that says:«At work we recognize the worker. »Well ! Look at the work, and look for the workman. It is pride that breeds unbelief. The proud man wants nothing above himself. »
[Message collected by Allan Kardec]

 « Having learned that disbelievers were demanding proof of the existence of God, the Baal-Shem Tov rushed to the synagogue, opened the holy ark, seized the Torah scrolls (divine teaching transmitted by Moses) and exclaimed, " I swear there is a God, isn't that proof enough? What more do they need?" »
[Elie Wiesel, 'Hasidic Celebration']

 « You have a habit, when you doubt God, of wishing that God would show himself. And who would you meet then, if not your equal and similar to you? And how would you prove such vulgarity? You want something to come down to you, to visit you on your floor.

 (...) Only revelation and the appearance of archangels could make this happen. Which is bad puppet, because if God looks like me to show himself to me he is not God, and if he is God, my mind can read it but not my senses. And if it is my mind to read it, I will only recognize it by its impact on me, as is the beauty of the temple. »
[ Saint-Exupéry ]

 « Instead of lowering, of reducing the sacred to the level of the profane, it is better to try to raise the profane to the rank of the sacred. »
[Elie Wiesel, 'Hasidic Celebration']

 « Believers have had personal experiences but it is difficult to put them forward as proof. They will only convince those whose hearts are already awakened by an inner movement. How to prove what is exclusively psychic? »
[ Celestial Messages from Pierre Monnier ]

 « Doubt is not eliminated only with “proofs” but also with the evolution of the heart. »
[ Stéphane Allix, about mediums ]


Home and site MAP > God >  Points What is God?

Where is he ? Does He only exist?

Why does He let us suffer?

The faith

You who reject God

You who want proof

The chance, the miracles

Why does he not reveal himself?

Why doesn't He punish the bad?

Why does He ordeal those He loves?


The chance, the miracles

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One day, while walking, I stopped in front of a strange composition on the side of the path: three stones in a triangle and in the center, a feather planted in the ground. “Who could have arranged them like this? and why ? In any case, it's not the wind, nor an animal,” I said to myself as I walked away.
Further on, I stopped, struck by something obvious: "If chance cannot line up three stones and a feather, how can we believe that it could have created the Universe and life?"
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 « Chance is the name that God takes when he wants to remain anonymous. »
(Albert Einstein)  magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Albert Einstein on the subject of:

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 « Chance! This word should never be spoken by a believer. Chance does not exist  ! Tell yourself that. »
[ Celestial Messages from Pierre Monnier ]

« To say that the complex systems you discover in the universe are due to chance takes even more faith than to believe in God. »
[ "To those who seek" ]

 ☞  The scientific view of chance
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 « There is no miracle. A miracle would imply a distinction on the part of God between his creatures, to favor one of them, thus temporarily suspending, for them, the natural laws. »
[ R. Bernard, Grand Master of the Rose Croix ]

 Miracles

 « Masters sometimes act on the course of human destinies, by delaying a death or by bringing about a cure. It is always only a means whose end is the triumph of the Love of God.
 Miracles are only means: St Paul went through all the trials unscathed because he had to; Joan of Arc saw deflected arrows and so many other extraordinary facts that occurred, for the sole purpose of accomplishing her mission, which was spiritual. »
[ Arnaud Gourvennec, celestial messages ]


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Where is he ? Does He only exist?

Why does He let us suffer?

The faith

You who reject God

You who want proof

The chance, the miracles

Why does he not reveal himself?

Why doesn't He punish the bad?

Why does He ordeal those He loves?


If God exists,
why doesn't He reveal Himself?

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 « God sometimes, said the Baal-Shem, seems so far from man. Because it's the role of the father to teach his son to walk. To do this, he advances or retreats a few steps, even if it means that the child stumbles and falls. »
[Elie Wiesel, 'Hasidic Celebration']
 - How to arouse interest in man?

  If I approached you, I would arrest you. -
  But I'm backing down. You don't even notice it
  And so you learn to walk on air.
 [ Dialogues with the Angel ]
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 « The cement is Love, but there is no Love without freedom.
 True love is free; free to reject God and do evil, free to approach him. God then, to probe the soul, will send him no sign, no help. On the contrary, sometimes! »
(A. Ray-Wendling, "A Sun Too Late")magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Anne Ray-Wendling on the subject of:

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 - Why don't you reveal yourself to everyone?

 « God does not reveal himself through outward observation, but through inner experience. And when inner experience has revealed Divinity, outer observation is not necessary. If outer observation is necessary, inner experience is not possible. If one needs revelation, one cannot receive it. »
[Inspired message to Neale Walsch]

[ After a long meditation and a call to God ]

 « I had not touched God, but a god who allows himself to be touched is no longer a god. Nor if he obeys prayer. And for the first time I guessed that the greatness of the prayer resides first of all in the fact that it is not answered, and that the ugliness of a commerce does not enter into this exchange. And that the learning of prayer is the learning of silence. And that love begins only where there is no longer a gift to be expected.
 (...) You will receive no sign. The stones know nothing of the temple they make up and cannot know anything about it. Nor you of God. For the temple would have to appear to the stone, which has no meaning because there is no language for the stone in which to receive it. »
[ Saint-Exupéry ]

 « Sometimes I want to tidy up the drawers that are in my head. Sort, keep only the essentials, make a little more room for God.
 I would like He gives me a hard time, to abandon me to myself, to pretend not to exist, and then at the last moment, at the worst moment, for him to come whisper in my ear: "
Don't worry, Jade, I'm here! It was just to see if you really loved me..." »
(F. Caragnon, "Jade and the Sacred Mysteries of Life")

 ☞   The meaning of things

Home and site MAP > God >  Points What is God?

Where is he ? Does He only exist?

Why does He let us suffer?

The faith

You who reject God

You who want proof

The chance, the miracles

Why does he not reveal himself?

Why doesn't He punish the bad?

Why does He ordeal those He loves?


 - Why aren't we rewarded when we do something good?

 If you are punished when you do wrong and rewarded when you do right, you would be a well-trained animal. Certainly not a free man.
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Why doesn't God punish the bad?

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In the texts, three reasons are invoked. The first is that there can be no sincere action without free will. The second is that if a person does evil, his conscience is not yet awakened. Also, a punishment would be useless because she would not understand, and that would make her even more bitter☆  « The law of karma is not necessarily chronological. It can "jump" several lives before finding the same circumstances, at a time when the entity is ready to assume them. »[une lecture d’Edgar Cayce]
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Finally, for the victim or victims, being confronted with evil a person can do, is an ordeal that is worth another, and a lesson.
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 « It is up to man to form himself. It's a very long process. As it is useless to sow on a sterile ground, we prefer to wait until the circumstances lend themselves to it, loosen the ground. Meanwhile, the bad man can do a lot of damage. It is for others a ordeal, one of those which reinforces or demolishes.
 It is up to you to defend yourself or to cash in according to your inner strength. We only help those who in perdition call us. »
[ "To those who seek" ]

 - Why not immediately punish those who do wrong?

 - The celestial guides are patient as one can be with children. They expect those who do evil to grow up and come to understand the consequences of their act (what you have not understood and assimilated will be offered to you until you ask yourself the real and good questions).
 Violence leads to violence. We must move towards more tolerance, even if it is difficult to accept the cruelty of certain humans. For many souls, having to bear to live with evil beings who flout love is a collective ordeal which awakens the desire to transform the vibrations and the atmosphere of this Earth. The intolerance (towards evil) , in this sense, can be a virtue, because "who does not say a word consents". But wisdom must be dominant to defeat darkness. She must dress in justice and love, otherwise there is chaos.

 Life on earth is an endless struggle. The baby who cries at birth knows this. Your sentimentality is a weakness in this cynical world. Denying evil will keep you from opposing it. »
[ Sylvie Lorain-Berger, "The messengers from beyond" ]

 « True criminals, those who live to defy the basic laws of the species, those who spread hatred and thrive on the suffering of others can expect no freedom here until they accept the law of reciprocity: "What I have done, I accept to endure in return." »
[ "To those who seek" ]

 ☞   Why evil?


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Where is he ? Does He only exist?

Why does He let us suffer?

The faith

You who reject God

You who want proof

The chance, the miracles

Why does he not reveal himself?

Why doesn't He punish the bad?

Why does He ordeal those He loves?


From the moment a man turns to the good,
his difficulties begin. For what ?

Why does God ordeal those He loves?
The silence of heaven

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Why do we say that God only makes those he loves suffer?

Because we only ask the one who is ready. If you are entrusted with a simple-minded and an intelligent child, which one will you push towards studies? Which will you prevent from falling asleep?

  Who asks the wretch who has nothing?
  but we shake the fig tree,
  because we expect fruit from it.
[ "Dialogues with the Angel" ]

 ☞   Difficulties & suffering of work on oneself.

 ☞   Awakening and Suffering

«Any moult is painful. »

[ Saint-Exupéry ]

 « The closer a being is to God, the more he suffers, because the law of imbalance (body on earth, spirit in heaven) takes on horrendous proportions. »
[Celestial message from Roland de Jouvenel]

 « Suffering, trials are necessary for knowledge. They inevitably hit the best who are the most vulnerable. »
(Marcel Belline, 'The Third Ear') LoupeAuteurContributions by Belline on the subject of::

LIFE or DEATH

« As soon as one embarks on the spiritual path, trials and obstacles accumulate.

 One who advances spiritually must sometimes endure the abandonment of all earthly support: relatives, friends, situation, and the apparent abandonment of spiritual forces. These hardships are intended to probe the degree of resistance to passional or material attractions.
He who has not been tested, what does he know? (Ecclesiastes 34-9) » »
(Hélène Bouvier, medium, "Mission of souls in the afterlife")

 « When morality supersedes short-term interest, a step is taken in personal evolution. But beware, the conviction must be unshakeable. If you are unsure of yourself, suffer as needed. The truth has many facets.

 (...) The consequences of goodwill can turn out to be harmful, at first sight. Don't let this stop you, you are building yourself through the work. »
[ "To those who seek" ]

 « The beings who are closest to God seem to have existences stripped of “happiness”. Mom, don't backslide, don't give in to despair. »
[Celestial message from Roland de Jouvenel]

 « God and the Devil are inseparable on Earth. And the more one dreads the second, the more one must rely on the first; the more one loves the first, the more one must fear the attacks of the second. »
[ Arnaud Gourvennec, celestial messages ]

 « I have discovered that those who give a lot of themselves, must especially preserve themselves and keep faith in life, because negative entities often take pleasure in sowing discord in any constructive work. »
[ Ellen Tadd (medium) ]

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