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 between the two worlds

 « What is not tangible frightens us. »
   [ Anne Givaudan ]

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Where are our dead?  
A question of vibratory plane
(Very) many spirits surround us
Are they really close to us?
Perceiving them
The automatic writing

Spontaneous, subtle contact  
Thoughts for them  
Sleep, dreams
The signs

Why don't I have any signs??  
Sadness locks us in
How to foster a contact
 ▪ Solve the other sources of pain
 ▪ Open, clear your mind
 ▪ To pay attention
 ▪ Moments
 ▪ Favorable places
 ▪ Other reasons

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The forced contacts  
Force a contact?
The clairvoyance
Dangerous contacts

The clairvoyance

Dangerous contacts

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Spiritism  
A noble idea
Undermined by mockery and impostors
...and irresponsible use
Spiritism sessions

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The mediums  
Their credibility
How do they reach the deceased?
Their relations with the spirits
The various forms of trance
Mediums' reports
 ▪ Violent deaths
 ▪ Suffering at the time of death?
 ▪ Message from a teenager
 ▪ Roger

Where do their visions come from?

 Mediums reports

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When the Mind “unhook”  
Does thought emanate from the brain?
Everything shows that they are distinct
An application for the trials of life

Wanderings on the verge of death

Doctors' reports & studies

Testimonials from experiencers

Shared death experiences

Negative NDEs

Comas, anesthesia

Sleep-wake phase

Hypnosis

Others case of "disconnection"

Where are our dead?

A question of vibratory plane
(Very) many spirits surround us
Are they really close to us?
Perceiving them
The automatic writing

 A question of vibratory plane

Before approaching this important subject, it would be advisable to read Frequencies & vibrations . Fundamental chapter which explains that this plan on which we pass an existence and which we believe to be unique, is set on a certain wavelength.
That other plans exist but are invisible to us is of course hard to believe...

 « When the fact that one encounters does not agree with a prevailing theory, one must accept the fact and abandon the theory. »
(Claude Bernard, physiologist (1813-1878))

...yet examples abound all around us.

Television first: when we tune into a channel, we see and hear what the corresponding program is broadcasting, and only that one.
But we know well that if we change the reception frequency, we will pick up another one. And that between two, we will have interference.

When we dream, we slip slightly into another plane. From where we sometimes bring back amazing memories.

From other plans come to us, most often unconsciously, ideas, impulses.

An authentic medium
☆  Many so-called psychics simply abuse the distress of others. However, beings capable of relating to the invisible world have existed, and still exist. They bring back very important messages.

Always discreet,

 . They get little or no pay

 . They always act for the good

 . They pray and invoke God before any contact
has the special gift of being able to perceive relatively close frequencies.

When we die, our soul rises to the plane corresponding to its purity.

 « The most scandalous is the silence, the disdain, even the censorship exercised by Science and the Church with regard to the undoubtedly most extraordinary discovery of our time: the afterlife exists and we can communicate with those whom we call the dead. »
(Father François Brune)

 (Very) many spirits surround us

 « Ghosts are, so to speak, fragments of other worlds. The healthy man has, of course, no need to see them because the healthy man is the most earthly of humans and who, for harmony and good order, must live only in the life of down here. But hardly does he fall ill, hardly does the earthly order break down, than immediately another world begins to manifest itself to him; and the sicker he is, the more contacts there are with the other world, so that when he dies for good, he passes directly into this other world. »
(Dostoyevsky, 'Crime and Punishment')

 « If you work in the health field, note this: people whose death is painful or distressing often find themselves in a state of shock after their death, and sometimes these wandering souls attach themselves to beings with whom they feel comfortable. Some do not even understand that their earthly life has ceased.
 Even if you don't think you are surrounded by spirit creatures☆ Excerpt from the page: "Low-astral" :

wandering spirits

  « Some spirits remain attached to matter. Their low vibrations keep them close to the reality of the living. They didn't “cross over”. Some are evil spirits, others are wandering spirits, and still others are ghosts.

Wandering spirits  are in transition between our material world and the afterlife. They generally continue to live among us for a short time, but this situation can last for centuries! Indeed, the wandering spirit retains its free will ( as well as his personality and inclinations ) , and it depends only on him to cross the course. »
[ Patricia Darré (medium) ]

following...
, it costs you nothing to say: " Go towards the light, you will find those you love there, they are waiting for you." Something to keep these wandering souls away from you to relieve you of their weight☆ Excerpt from the page: "Low-astral" :

Infiltration

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  « The problem with wandering spirits is that they are never at peace. Thus, without necessarily being malicious, they can only have a negative influence on us. As long as it is temporary, it does not constitute a major annoyance and most of us are not aware of this phenomenon. But sometimes a wandering spirit sticks to our body energy for years! This is called “infiltration”. Its influence can then cause real embarrassment in the life of the infiltrated person. She will suffer great fatigue without ever succeeding in recovering, experiencing anxiety and the feeling of being next to her pumps, of not being completely herself. Be careful, these symptoms are not necessarily an infiltration! »
[ Patricia Darré (medium) ]

 - It's not your fault. But you are going through puberty. In other words, your sensitivity is highly developed, and this is what attracts certain invisible presences. That's what bothers them too. Their forces interact through you, but their place is not in you! Nor around you. Their place is in the peace of the beyond.
[ Michèle Decker, "Life on the Other Side" ]

following...
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(Allison Dubois (medium))magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Allison Dubois on the theme of:

The WAY, LIFE or DEATH

« Spirits that have not passed are anxious, restless, focused on the problems that prevent them from ascending. »
[ Patricia Darré (medium) ]

Are they really close to us?

The medium: « Your son [ deceased ] wants you to plant flowers in front of the house.

 - I was just thinking about that the other day!

 « He put this idea in your head.
(J. Van Praagh, 'Dialogues with the Beyond')magnifying glassAuthorContributions by James Van Praagh on the subject of:

The WAY , LIFE or DEATH

 « The tumultuous atmosphere of nightclubs sharpens the acuity of my third eye. This one confirms to me that many disembodied live with us on Earth. The two worlds interpenetrate! I naively believed that the dead went to live on planes higher than Earth and came down to visit us when they decided. But apparently it is not so, since I see them walking around and mingling with us. Strange...
 Some disembodied are more distinct to my inner vision than others. It's surprising to see them come and go, then suddenly disappear. Where are they going? None of them talk to me.
 »
[ Sylvie Lorain-Berger, "The messengers from beyond" ]


 « You're surrounded by the departed, but you can't see them. It's hard for you to understand this because you're missing a meaning. »
( Messages from Isabelle - Lights from Beyond )

 « You don't realize how much you are surrounded by waves belonging to departed beings and wandering around you. Some of these, invested by the consciousness of Evil, erect obstacles in front of your actions of Faith, Charity and Hope. They are the relays of Evil☆ Excerpt from the page: "Low-astral" :

wandering spirits

  « Some spirits remain attached to matter. Their low vibrations keep them close to the reality of the living. They didn't “cross over”. Some are evil spirits, others are wandering spirits, and still others are ghosts.

Wandering spirits  are in transition between our material world and the afterlife. They generally continue to live among us for a short time, but this situation can last for centuries! Indeed, the wandering spirit retains its free will ( as well as his personality and inclinations ) , and it depends only on him to cross the course. »
[ Patricia Darré (medium) ]

following...
who can even if necessary - although rarely! - attacks you head-on under terrifying aspects.

 But most of the waves that surround you are neutral waves, weak unfortunate presences of ancestors, relatives or friends who, like wounded birds, cannot fly away. A mediocre earth life, an ignored death and here are these human swamp elves looking for the exit
☆ Excerpt from the page: "Low-astral" :

Helping spirits find the light

  "What must be understood is that there is a first level made up of deceased beings whose soul, because it was malnourished on earth (not informed), wanders very close to humans, sometimes to lose them, sometimes to ask them for help. »
[ Arnaud Gourvennec, celestial messages ]

A very important role of the (true) mediums is to help these souls "let go" of the Earth to turn their eyes towards Heaven.
Already in the time of the pharaohs:

 « Certain priestesses, immersed in a sacred sleep, help the confused souls who, after death, wander in the terrestrial atmosphere, to find their way. Without this assistance, they might still stagnate for hundreds or even thousands of years.
 The priestesses look for these tormented souls, locked up in themselves. With all the force of love they penetrate their essence and imbue their consciousness with ideas that will allow them to find a just solution to their condition. The mission of these priestesses is therefore twofold: they help these wandering souls to move forward and, simultaneously, cleanse the earth's atmosphere. »
[ Elisabeth Haich, "Initiation" ]

following...
 ! »
[ Arnaud Gourvennec, celestial messages ]

 « The dead are part of life, of our life. Already as a child, I see them... they are there but I'm never afraid. They are tender and considerate. For me, these deceased are not ghosts. They are "natural persons". They have a body and I can describe them. I see them as if behind a one-way mirror, they move, move, often leave, giving me a friendly little wave. I hear them like we're talking on the phone☆  I have always found it hard to believe that many spirits evolve around us, without us seeing or feeling them. But recently, a memory of my early childhood came back to me: very feverish, my parents had installed me in their bed. Suddenly, in front their bedroom door, I saw people walking through the dining room.

 - Who are all these people? I asked my father, pointing at them.
 - What people? he replied, as surprised as he was worried.

 That's all I remember, but it confirms in all respects the assertions of people endowed with mediumistic gifts:

« I didn't know these people, and they didn't seem to know each other or pay attention to me. »
 ...
 « They walked slowly, their shoulders hunched a little, as if they were sad, not knowing where to go or what to do. ...
 "
 They weren't floating, they were at ground level." »
[ Sylvie Lorain-Berger, "The messengers from beyond" ]

 I was not dreaming since I spoke to my father and he answered me.

 Mediums sometimes compare their sensitivity to that of a radio receiver. Mine, modified that day by my feverish state, may have settled on another frequency.

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[ Sylvie Lorain-Berger, "The messengers from beyond" ]

 « I got into the habit of scanning space, looking for my father beyond the veils of the invisible. But I don't see it. I dare not mention it. The dead should never be disturbed. You have to wait patiently for their visits... »

 The spiritual guide of the medium whispers in her ear:

 - Don't look for your father here. I already told you he's not on that plan. »
[ Sylvie Lorain-Berger, "The messengers from beyond" ]

 ☞  What is the afterlife?

Home and site MAP > Contacts >  Points Where are our dead?

Spontaneous, subtle contact  

Why don't I have any signs??  

The forced contacts  

Spiritism  

The mediums  

Where do their visions come from?

 Mediums' reports

When the Mind “unhook”  

 Wanderings on the verge of death

 Doctors' reports & studies

 Testimonials from experiencers

 Shared death experiences

 Negative NDEs

 Comas, anesthesia

 Sleep-wake phase

 Hypnosis

 Others case of "disconnection"

« The invisible is not the unreal. »
[ Celestial message from Arnaud Gourvennec ]
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Perceive those who are gone

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  « Around us vibrates a vast invisible world. This world is populated by spirits of all kinds, energies, guides, guardian angels and also those who have left us. Some of these beings speak to us without our hearing them, yet they speak to us constantly. They offer their help or ask for ours, but to these subtle and delicate whispers we remain deaf. »
[ Stéphane Allix, about mediums ]

 « Man can 'rise' up to those who have left him. Visualization is the starting point of all contact. Visualize his face, smiling and welcoming; insist on the eyes and look at them as one would for a living being.

 When contact is established (visualization surely leads to contact), cease visualization and surrender to communion. This can last a few seconds, a few minutes sometimes, rarely more.

 There are no words on the cosmic level, there is vibratory exchange.

 The impression immediately felt is a great peace, an immense consolation and a sublime surge of love. »
[ R. Bernard, Grand Master of the Rose Croix ]

 « It would be a mistake to believe that you have to be a medium to attract beings from the invisible world to yourself. Space is populated by them; we constantly have them around us, by our side, who see us, observe us, follow us or flee from us depending on whether we attract them or repel them. »
[Allan Kardec]

 « Learn to perceive, to feel with the antennae that lie dormant within you. You will then know that we have never, ever left you. »
[ Message collected by Maguy Lebrun ]

 « Despite all that was said about the disappeared who could not come back from death, I felt that we were wrong. I was a witness, not a believer in this or that. I had personal experiences and not dreams. I had not been warned, until I myself witnessed such a possibility, that many laughed at those who claimed to communicate with the dead. »

(Maddly Bamy, "Love Without Expecting Return")  magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Maddly Bamy on the subject of:

The WAY , LIFE , HEALTH or DEATH

 « The children, since they have not yet spent much time in the physical plane, have kept a strong connection with the spiritual world. It is not uncommon for them to see certain beings in their spiritual form, and to be able to converse with them. These entities can be guides or lost and confused entities. »
[ Ellen Tadd (medium) ]

 « We are a stone's throw from you, within easy reach… All those who preceded me told me how close they were to their dear humans, close but having difficulty accessing them. They multiplied the signs, generally visual or vocal: some were able to show their spiritual being, an ethereal envelope, others a white, blue, pink cloud… But most were unable to do anything so “concrete”. They acted all the same, suggesting consoling words, ideas of hope. What interventions of all kinds! 

 (...) Relations like ours are rare, whereas they would be more often possible. »
[ Arnaud Gourvennec, celestial messages ]

  « When the deceased access the higher realms, they can still communicate but it will be more difficult for them because their high spiritual vibrations take them away from the earth plane. However, they intervene in certain cases such as serious illness, accident to avoid, suicide to prevent. »
(Jean Prieur, "The country after")magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Jean Prieur on the theme of:

The WAY , LOVE , LIFE or DEATH

 « There are spirits who struggle to distinguish those they love on earth. It is because they think of them as beings distant from them and who have forgotten them.

 I am happy when I feel you in this atmosphere of woods and fields; your mind is freer, more malleable in a way, my message soaks in it more easily. »
[ Celestial Messages from Pierre Monnier ]

 « Your soul, despite its temporal garment, remains itself, remembers, vibrates at the call of other souls, even those of Heaven. Dear mother, this is how our souls touch. No positive obstacle can prevent them from joining. »
[ Celestial Messages from Pierre Monnier ]

 « Your openness allows us to borrow your beneficial energies, to improve our development, our relationships, and thus help you more effectively. »
["Karine after life"]

 « The perception of the other world does not distance us from the “real” world as some fear. Alone, on the contrary, it gives us confidence for life. It makes us discover Causes, while without it we grope like blind people in the world of Effects.

 Only the knowledge of supersensible truths confers meaning on sensible "realities". This is why this knowledge, far from diminishing our aptitude for life, can only increase it, for only he who understands life can become a truly "practical" man. »
[ Rudolf Steiner ]

 The automatic writing

 - Should I practice automatic writing, or use a medium?

 « Rather than automatic writing or using a medium, try to listen to your inner voice. Remember that the Universe, God, is inside of you☆ Excerpt from the page: "Taking-back-control" :

Every being is connected to their inner Self,
which is connected to God.

Our double

 Our inner being

 « In you there are two characters, one terrestrial, stuck to matter, mired in its heaviness, and the other celestial, letting itself be carried by the light. The moment you conceive your two poles, you become greedy for unity and begin your quest for purity. But that's also where the trouble begins! In the innocence of unconsciousness you found a certain tranquility, operating in the same patterns for generations, fit to taste the pleasures of the flesh.
 However, as soon as your consciousness opens to greater lucidity, your thirst for clarity comes up against the shadows.
 In the grip of an existential despair, your mind then plays monumental tricks on you. You become the prey of grief, terrible doubts, loneliness and your impatience.
 We are with you more than ever in these wanderings. Because then we recognize in you the flame, the inner fire.

 Then begins an interior dialogue between your soul, which has already recognized us, and us who are your servants, your companions on the way. At your side, ready to support you in the difficult passages, smiling at your stammerings as a child of light.

 In your heart of hearts, ego of earth and soul of light manifest themselves to each other and show themselves in turn. There is no point in adjusting them with a master's hand, there is no point in wishing for their fruitful friendship. Their role is not to oust each other. Thus you grow, by making in you the union of your part of incarnated man and your part of brilliance of light. It is there, in the balanced axis between these two aspects of yourself, that you touch that you touch the new dimension that allows you to Over-Live (among earthly torments). Then your personality of light irrigates your being incarnated in matter for a happy birth: that of the new Man in you, an incarnated reflection of the Father Creator. »
[ Brigitte Quéro, "Spiritual Messages"]
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 If the information comes through what you have at hand, through automatic writing, fine. But beware of certain external influences. »
[a reading by Edgar Cayce]

 - Janine (your sister) wonders if I'm not writing under the influence of my subconscious?

« I heard the objection. Let's see, little sister, you're dreaming. Think a bit. How do you want a subconscious to push a pencil? And better yet, that he imitates my handwriting, because I think you've noticed that my handwriting is starting to appear. What are you looking for there? You have too much imagination. »
( Georges Morrannier, Messages dictated to his mother )

During an automatic write:

  « (...) Don't hold the pen with your fingers so hard! Thanks Mom. »
(Jeannine Van Camp, 'You will tell them')


Home and site MAP > Contacts >  Points Where are our dead?  

Spontaneous, subtle contact

Why don't I have any signs??  

The forced contacts  

Spiritism  

The mediums  

When the Mind “unhook”  

 Wanderings on the verge of death

 Doctors' reports & studies

 Testimonials from experiencers

 Shared death experiences

 Negative NDEs

 Comas, anesthesia

 Sleep-wake phase

 Hypnosis

 Others case of "disconnection"

Spontaneous, subtle contacts

Thoughts for them  
Sleep, dreams
The signs


 Thoughts for them  

- Roland! ! Roland! !

 « In my circles, the echo of your call resounds. Let anyone who whispers the name of their departed know that we hear them. »
[Celestial message from Roland de Jouvenel]

 - I need you to think of me, how can I put it? positively! (says Arnaud to his father)

 - And between mom and you, how is it going? (the father asks)

 - The waves are deeply painful. For the moment, they interfere with telepathy on both sides. »
[ Arnaud Gourvennec, celestial messages ]

 « The simple fact of thinking of a being on the “other side” makes the consciousness of this being fly towards you. You cannot think of a "dead" person without that person's Essence immediately becoming aware of it. It is not necessary to use a medium to achieve such communication. Love is the best "medium" of communication.

 Besides, you don't need to call a soul that loved you in this lifetime. As soon as she is familiar with the possibilities of her new existence, she will fly towards you to bring you help and comfort if she senses a disturbance, an imbalance in your auric field. »
[Inspired message to Neale Walsch]

 « I was united with my mother. Even if she no longer lived in a body, I was nonetheless indissolubly linked to her. Spiritual unity depends so little on the proximity of bodies! »
[ Elisabeth Haich, "Initiation" ]

 Sleep, dreams

« Sleep is a loan from death
for the maintenance of life. »

 ( Arthur Schopenhauer, 1788-1860 )LoupeAuteurContributions by Arthur Schopenhauer on the theme of:

LIFE ou DEATH

 « Sleep partly frees the soul from the body. But the Spirit also recovers its freedom as soon as the senses become numb; semi-sleep or a simple numbness can bring the same images as the dream.

 During sleep, the Spirit travels through space, and enters into more direct relation with the other Spirits, either in one world or in another.

 He remembers the past and sometimes foresees the future, but it is absurd to believe that dreaming of such a thing announces such a thing.

 The dream is the memory of what your Spirit saw during sleep. But most often, it is only the memory of the trouble that accompanies your departure or your return, to which is added that of what you have done or what concerns you during the day. »
[Message collected by Allan Kardec]

 The spirit takes flight, flees

 « Your sleeping body is freed from all human agitation. and lives only by the spirit. You see, you hear, you touch, and yet your limbs are inert.
 Sleep is man's foray into the beyond. His nightmares are no strangers to the painful areas that envelop heaven. In the battles of your nightmares, you catch a glimpse of those devilish immensities that you will have to cross if you live far from God. »
[Celestial message from Roland de Jouvenel]

 « Most often, during your sleep you come to join me; you don't remember those meetings when you wake up. Sometimes there remains an indefinable impression of it, and the desire for the other life. Why does God allow these excursions into another sphere? We don't know. I think it is to give the man exiled on earth the courage to continue his work; it is the “permission to relax”. If the veil then falls again, it is because man, again exiled, instead of finding strength, would remember it only to groan about his earthly condition.

 When sleep releases your mind from its bonds, you come to us. We therefore encourage you, we “feed” you, I might say, to continue your pilgrimage. If you do not keep the memory of it, it is because the life of the flesh would seem to you too painful and totally beyond your strength. »
[ Celestial Messages from Pierre Monnier ]

 « Tell mom to get plenty of sleep. There is a border where the dead and the living meet, but you have to be sound asleep. »
[ Message received by Sylvie Lorain-Berger, medium ]

 « While the body rests, the spirit frees itself from material bonds; he is freer, and can more easily see the other spirits with which he enters into communication. The dream is only the memory of this state; even if nothing is remembered, the soul has nevertheless profited from its freedom. »
[Allan Kardec]

 « On Earth, in the waking state, an individual's conscious is incredibly limited. But it is not the same during his sleep. The astral body☆ Excerpt from the page: "The beyond" :

The astral body

 (or spiritual body or etheric body)

  « The spiritual body is the exact replica of the physical body, because it develops in symbiosis, first in the embryo, then in the child, then the adolescent.

 (...) At our death, while the physical body will crumble into dust, our spiritual body will continue its existence. Despite its somewhat ethereal appearance in photographs, the soul is not something totally immaterial. It retains a certain consistency. »
[ Alain Joseph Bellet (medium) ]

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in its entirety is liberated. He then reconnects with his roots, his knowledge, and thus influences by impulses the small part of himself which is lucid in a daytime way. »
(D. Meurois and A. Givaudan, 'Terre d'émeraude')magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Anne Givaudan on the theme of:

The WAY , LOVE , LIFE , HEALTH or DEATH

 The signs

 « The sign, the irruption of the invisible into the visible, attests to a presence when one believes oneself in exile and solitude. It supports when one finds oneself in the furnace of trial. Given freely, out of love, it reaches us in secrecy and silence. Like precious stones, it is rare; it must be rare.
 The sign instructs, advises, delights, encourages. The sky sends signs, but they are not always received as such, because many of us are strongly armored.

 (...) The sign is always subjective and personal, it is intelligible only for the person to whom it is addressed. »
(Jean Prieur, "The country after")magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Jean Prieur on the theme of:

The WAY , LOVE , LIFE or DEATH
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The easiest contacts are made with the world immediately above ours: the lower astral☆ Excerpt from the page: "Low-astral" :

A plan to go through quickly

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 « The souls of the lower astral do not want to ascend. They do not understand the place where they are and wish to return willingly or by force to the earth. They would rush into any open and unprotected channel. This possession is very painful for the incarnate. Dangerous.

 Yet God is there, on the edge of the abyss, ready to seize them, but they retract, flee, are afraid, do not understand. Pray for them, send them surges of Love. They can't even communicate with each other because they scare each other. They run away from each other instead of helping each other. They lock themselves up. »
(A. Ray-Wendling, "A Sun Too Late")

 « To live in darkness now and after 'death' is to make a personal choice. I affirm here that there is no eternal hell unless we choose it. »
[ R. Altea, "A long ladder to the sky" ]

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, where the souls remained attached to the earth stagnate. So you have to be very careful.
 « There is an low-astral, that is to say the level which immediately follows the earth and which is 'inhabited' by disturbed souls. But when a communication is carried out with faith, with love, it benefits from the protection of higher levels. »
["Karine after life"]

 « The best thing is to wait for spontaneous signs: dreams, premonitions, “coincidences”. It is up to us to be attentive and not to oppose the arguments of skepticism, saying each time: it is chance. In that case, we would discourage them and they would be silent. The events that arise in our life are often the answer to questions that we have mentally posed to them. As a certain amount of time passes between the question and the answer, we do not make the connection between the two and we feel that we have not been heard. »
(Jean Prieur, "The country after")magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Jean Prieur on the theme of:

The WAY , LOVE , LIFE or DEATH

 « The signs, there are many, but their repercussion in you is proportionate to your degree of interior heat.

 (...) We can only act on the infinitely light. To send you my image I had to knead the dust, grain by grain.
 Know how to welcome what is offered to you because much is often given to you, but your eyes look without seeing. The atmosphere is populated by our signals.

 (...) Mom, the Lord has blessed you by allowing me to send you some heavenly spangles, and you are not giving enough thanks to heaven for its goodness. You always want more. People always want more. These quests are tiresome for the rest of us, since it is we who are responsible for listening to you, then transmitting your supplications to God. »
[Celestial message from Roland de Jouvenel]

 « Our deceased explain to me that it is very difficult for them to move an object. If some succeed, most try instead to greet us by using insects and flying animals: birds, butterflies, ladybugs, ... »
[ Patricia Darré (medium) ]

 « What are our materializations for? To help you understand the existence of another world, on another plane; to show you that contact is possible in joy and simplicity. »
["Karine after life"]

 « We found that the easiest way for spirits to reveal their presence were electrical devices (light bulbs, television, telephone, etc.).

 « (...) Spirits often appeal to animals. Very often, under the influence of spiritual entities, a bird or a small animal will come to us or attract our attention. »
(J. Van Praagh, 'Dialogues with the Beyond')magnifying glassAuthorContributions by James Van Praagh on the subject of:

The WAY , LIFE or DEATH


Home and site MAP > Contacts >  Points Where are our dead?  

Spontaneous, subtle contact  

Why don't I have any signs??

The forced contacts  

Spiritism  

The mediums  

When the Mind “unhook”  

 Wanderings on the verge of death

 Doctors' reports & studies

 Testimonials from experiencers

 Shared death experiences

 Negative NDEs

 Comas, anesthesia

 Sleep-wake phase

 Hypnosis

 Others case of "disconnection"

 Why don't I have any signs??

Sadness locks us in
How to foster a contact
 ▪ Solve the other sources of pain
 ▪ Open, clear your mind
 ▪ To pay attention
 ▪ Moments
 ▪ Favorable places
 ▪ Other reasons

   « Some parents who do not receive any signs feel aggrieved. Why her and not us? Why this silence ? Does he forget us?

 To which I reply: “Are you sure you are not receiving anything? There are not only written messages, there are dreams, subtle signs, coincidences... Nothing spectacular, but we are not at the show, we are in the secret of souls. »
(Jean Prieur, "The country after")magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Jean Prieur on the theme of:

The WAY , LOVE , LIFE or DEATH

 Sadness locks us in

« Evelyn found that the more desperate you are, the more you would like to have a sign, the less likely it is to happen. Why?
 « (...) We must not blame the deceased. His apparent silence is not a lack of love; on the contrary, making a sign to a person is all the more difficult for him as he is bound to her.
 In addition, a need for internalization, a temporary detachment is necessary for his evolution - as well as that of his relatives who have remained on earth. »
[ Stéphane Allix, about mediums ]

When we suffer, we instinctively withdraw into ourselves. Whether it's for fear of a new injury, or to cut ourselves off from the ambient agitation while we heal. Let's understand that we become at the same time unreachable for other plans.
Let us realize the difficulty that represents for an already celestial being to return to sink into a mind in full distress. Can we ask a butterfly to land on rough seas?

 « Being much more at peace today, I can assure you that I feel the presence of my brother (deceased) more easily. »
[ Stéphane Allix, about mediums ]

 How to foster a contact

 Go halfway

 « We experience a kind of pain when we approach the earth psychically. We have the impression of entering a stifling darkness. »
[ Celestial Messages from Pierre Monnier ]

Solve the other sources of pain

« You have to act on the sadness (we can't do anything about the loss, but let's try to get rid of peripheral torments). Once reduced, the conditions favorable to the occurrence of a contact are created.
 Mediums say that the dead are on a much higher energy level than the living. When we are depressed, overwhelmed with sadness, our energy level is lower than normal and this makes connection very difficult.
 Most testimonies describe a spontaneous experience when the bereaved is not in a state of despair but busy with daily tasks. Many occur at night or when the mind, less vigilant, takes a break. »
[ Stéphane Allix, about mediums ]

 Open, clear your mind

 « I (your deceased mother) have lived with you for forty years, integrated into your soul, silent and helpless very often, except when you open your heart. »
[ "To those who seek" ]

 « Your big mistake is to live constantly cut off from the cosmos, to dwell on fictions, that is to say all of human concerns.

 (...) The invasion of the mind by material problems is an incredible thing; he does not give you a moment's respite. The desires are linked to each other. You wake up with desires, you go to sleep with desires, and the motives that animate you follow one another like the waves of the sea. Ah! if you only knew how to calm yourself down and enter into rest! »
[Celestial message from Roland de Jouvenel]

 « I'm ready to teach you, but right now, your mind is in turmoil. Before coming, you have to cross layers of silence, your spirit must no longer carry any human bud.

 The void ! ! Can a full cage hold one more bird? How could God pour out his grace in a heart inhabited by desires? You have to empty yourself out before you wave to the angels. »
[Celestial message from Roland de Jouvenel]

The young women welcome the angel joyfully:

  Today it is good to be here. (angel's radiant smile)
[ "Dialogues with the Angel" ]

 To pay attention

 « If you really want to hear our echoes, you have to achieve a certain inner tone. The least of the rustles that I will send to you will then cause notes of the sky to spring up in you.

 (...) You can only capture the rustling of this distant life by tuning your waves to the celestial waves. »
[Celestial message from Roland de Jouvenel]

 « Turn off your universe so that you can only see my eyes looking at you. I am at the edge of your heart, smile at me.

 It is impossible for me to speak to you in the state of material clutter in which you find yourself. I move away with regret because I wanted to talk to you.

 (...) The days pass, and the evenings, and you do not come. Why inflict this sadness on me?

 (...) If your inner being is not built like a cathedral, everything crumbles as soon as we approach and we have only one haste, that of fleeing. What grips us when we find you and you are not ready to welcome us is the cold; we shiver. »
[Celestial message from Roland de Jouvenel]

 « Be careful, this book is far from My only tool. You can ask a question, then put this book aside. But watch, listen to the lyrics of the next song you'll hear, the information of the next article you'll read, the synopsis of the next movie you'll watch, the chance phrase of the next person you'll meet or the murmur of the next river, of the next breeze that will caress your ear. All these processes are Mine. If you listen, I will speak to you. I will come to you if you invite Me.

I've always been there anyway.

 If you believe that God has only one voice or only exists in one way, you will pass Me day and night without seeing Me. You will spend your whole life looking for God without finding Him. God is in sadness and laughter, the bitter and the sweet. »
[Inspired message to Neale Walsch]

Moments

 « I like to talk to you when you're half awake, because then your soul is malleable and it's easy for my angel fingers to imprint their traces. Become like a silk thread in the wind; when you have lost your rigidity, you will receive the sum of my effluvia. »
[Celestial message from Roland de Jouvenel]

 « In this neutral state in which you are immersed before sleeping, your will is extinguished; the sharpness of external values ​​fades. Oh ! unfortunate who neglect to perceive one of the most important states of your condition! The half-sleep is the exact moment of "between life", between your plan and the other. »
[Celestial message from Roland de Jouvenel]

 ☞ See chapter above "Wake-sleep phase"

 « The spiritual body separates from the physical body every night when we fall asleep. In the dream state, we are very sensitive to impressions from the spiritual planes. Also, this is the time when our family in the spirit world chooses to communicate with us. The easiest way to contact spirits while sleeping is to think about them before falling asleep. »
(J. Van Praagh, 'Dialogues with the Beyond')magnifying glassAuthorContributions by James Van Praagh on the subject of:

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 « As soon as the senses become numb, the mind frees itself and can see far or near what it could not see with the eyes. »
[Message collected by Allan Kardec]

Message from a spirit about to incarnate:

 « In a few moments Mom will be falling asleep and we will see her body of consciousness slowly rising above the bed. I would like to stimulate his attention, quickly pull him out of the lethargy of the first stages of sleep and enter the bubble of life that his soul will soon generate. Most future children do this, especially to suggest the first name.
 I hope to tell him what my path in life will be, where I will need his help, his safeguards or his impulses. It is given to many of us to be able to act like this, at least with one of his future parents. »
(D. Meurois and A. Givaudan, 'Les neuf marches')  magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Anne Givaudan on the theme of:

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 ☞ Cf. below "The sleep"

Favorable places

 « I like long walks in the countryside by your side, it is in solitude that I find you best.

 Mom, I see you, I'll join you. The cry of the swallow is my cry; the cooing of a pigeon, my complaint. I am in the garden, everywhere. There is not a grass that grows, not a calyx of a flower that breathes without drawing from the same sources as mine.

 (...) Everything reverberates in your soul: the climate, the sun, the things seen, the things heard. These resonances pass through your psychic channels and compose the colorations of your soul. »
[Celestial message from Roland de Jouvenel]

 Other reasons

 « After his death (tells the medium), my father stayed with my mother most of the time and when I visit him, I know he is there too. However, he tells me not to betray his presence:

 " I want her to continue to have both feet on the ground and her freedom of thought, it's very important for her development. There is a deep reason for my departure, and if I constantly whisper to her what she should say or do, we will have suffered our separation for nothing. If so many couples who love each other are separated by death, it is because the survivor must learn to exist without the other."
[ Sylvie Lorain-Berger, "The messengers from beyond" ]

 « People say angrily that their loved one ignores them because they don't show up. They don't understand that time no longer exists here. What seems so long on Earth, for us passes like a dream. The soul cannot therefore feel this lack, this absence. »
( Christine André, 'Listen, you need to know' )  LoupeAuteurContributions by Christine André on the theme of:

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Dangerous contacts

  « Put yourself in a state of grace before seeking Heaven. If your soul has not mended its rags, by what right are you asking of us?? None of us will bother to satisfy your curiosity. »
[Celestial message from Roland de Jouvenel]

 « He asks me to try a contact with his father (deceased) . It is denied to us.
 The soul, we are told, finds it difficult to leave its earthly bonds. So we must not try to “re-attract” her towards us, but on the contrary, pray that she will rise as quickly as possible towards the Love that awaits her.
 Perhaps months, years of our earthly time will pass before we can contact her. It is only when she arrives in a sphere of calm and Love that she can, without difficulty for herself, lean towards us. »

(on the other hand another may come along...)

(A. Ray-Wendling, "A Sun Too Late")magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Anne Ray-Wendling on the subject of:

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[ Forced contacts ]

The clairvoyance

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  « There is a very powerful connection between the thoughts and the body (the author's guide reproaches her for practicing clairvoyance) . This is why predicting to someone that he is going to suffer from a certain disease can lead him to create it by his own thoughts of apprehension.
 The mind cares about the future because it likes to make you believe that tomorrow will always be better. It immerses you in the illusion by projecting you above time. We lose precious moments...

 God has hidden destiny from man so that he can live in peace in his present.

 (...) Many will wait for the happiness announced as a due. And revealing to a person future trials can traumatize him and slow him down in his earthly evolution.

 (...) You make them believe in a destiny drawn in advance, when it is not so. They can transform it in a second...

 (...) You have to be very careful, because the closer the dead are to the Earth (except those who decide to protect their loved ones out of love), the less they know. They mostly make deductions from your thinking at the time. »
[ Sylvie Lorain-Berger, "The messengers from beyond" ]

- Yet some people need lighting at some point in their lives, to better distinguish the right path...

 « Each of you has the power to distinguish, without outside help, if you are on the right or the wrong path. »
[ Sylvie Lorain-Berger, "The messengers from beyond" ]


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If those who die turn away, consciously or not, from the call of the luminous spheres, they remain close to the earth plane.
So close that they can inspire, parasitize, even infiltrate a person's mind, as soon as they lose control of themselves (anger, drugs, alcohol...); a fortiori if they are invoked (ouija, tables, pendulum, divination cards, automatic writing, etc.), whether out of curiosity or to contact a loved one.

Dangerous contacts

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  « Trading in soul and energy is in vogue in your world. To avoid any possession, on the part of an entity of the lower astral or even of a wandering soul
[who still does not know that she is no longer of this world], avoid the provocation of energies by fleeing people who do magic, mediums who work with waves whose origins you do not know and who do not practice spiritual prayer.
 You all have protective waves in your auras, but a negative state of being weakens them, and an evil spirit can then destroy them. »
(R. Terral-Meyer, 'Lettres de l’invisible')   magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Rosine Terral-Meyer
on the theme of:

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 « We expose people to serious risks by encouraging them to play with the paranormal. You can even find ouija boards for children in toy stores! Gold

the paranormal is not a game.

 Nor should it be explored to flee a reality that does not satisfy us or to flee from oneself.
 In fact, the more one approaches the paranormal in a superficial approach, the greater the chances of attracting negativity. It is often those who have not passed into the afterlife who present themselves first and if some are a little lost or pranksters, others are much more negative and dangerous. We can thus come across very malicious spirits, some of whom were murderers during their lifetime or disreputable people.
 As they can no longer do physical harm, they feed on fear that they elicit. In this respect, teenagers, who by definition feel bad about themselves and are prey to external and internal conflicts, constitute formidable targets for them. »
[ Patricia Darré (medium) ]

 « The souls of the lower astral☆ Excerpt from the page: "Low-astral" :

A plan to go through quickly

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 « The souls of the lower astral do not want to ascend. They do not understand the place where they are and wish to return willingly or by force to the earth. They would rush into any open and unprotected channel. This possession is very painful for the incarnate. Dangerous.

 Yet God is there, on the edge of the abyss, ready to seize them, but they retract, flee, are afraid, do not understand. Pray for them, send them surges of Love. They can't even communicate with each other because they scare each other. They run away from each other instead of helping each other. They lock themselves up. »
(A. Ray-Wendling, "A Sun Too Late")

 « To live in darkness now and after 'death' is to make a personal choice. I affirm here that there is no eternal hell unless we choose it. »
[ R. Altea, "A long ladder to the sky" ]

following...
rush into any open and unprotected channel. »
(A. Ray-Wendling, "A Sun Too Late")magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Anne Ray-Wendling on the subject of:

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 « All people who give themselves to magic leave their doors open to negative forces; the danger is very serious. »
(R. Terral-Meyer, 'Lettres de l’invisible')   magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Rosine Terral-Meyer
on the theme of:

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« Some people, because they practice magic or spiritualism, find themselves infiltrated by demonic spirits, spirits in total negativity (this ranges from the one who rejoices in our little annoyances to the serial killer) and in no way wanting get out. The medium, if he cannot force them to pass to the other side, can however drive them out of the bodily energy of a living person. Mediums often come to consult me ​​themselves so that I hunt entities that stuck to them during some of their practices. »
[ Patricia Darré (medium) ]

  « When the medium puts himself psychically in a situation of reception, he finds himself illuminated by a projector in the parallel world; it becomes visible to many of the deceased. Attracted by this living being who seems to see and hear them, many disappeared approach, impatient to be able to communicate.

 But beware, when you do spiritualism for "fun", exactly the same thing happens: you become visible in the world of the dead, and generally those who wander in search of a little light are not the ones you would like to invite to dinner. And because in the spiritual world, light rubs shoulders with the most sordid shadow, even mediums can be invaded against their will. »
[ Stéphane Allix, about mediums ]

 « A spirit pretends, for example, to be a deceased loved one to gain the trust of the person, and in the end manages to keep them under its influence, negatively influencing their thoughts, their behavior, their life. This can be the source of significant psychological imbalances.

 I get mail every day from people who feel diminished and hampered by a spirit after trying to communicate with the departed. "Remove it!" they ask me. But it is not that simple ! It's as if I were told: "My son is subjugated by a woman, remove the hold she has on him!"
 It is up to the personality to go and draw from it its will and its determination to get out of the grip. But very often people who are under the influence ask only that. »
[ Patricia Darré (medium) ]


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Spiritism

A noble idea
Undermined by mockery and impostors
...and irresponsible use
Spiritism sessions

 A noble idea

At all times men have communicated with disembodied spirits, through a medium or not. It was not until the 19th century that under the impulse of inspirations, doctor Léon Rivail ( Allan Kardec ) codified this communication into a doctrine, a philosophy. He thus presents what he called spiritualism  :

 « Thousands of voices which make themselves heard simultaneously on all points of the earth to proclaim the same principles, here is an advantage which none of the doctrines which have appeared up to this day have enjoyed.

 The most serious guarantee of the teaching of the spirits is in the concordance which exists between the revelations made spontaneously, through the mediation of a great number of mediums foreign to one another, and in various countries. »

 According to Allan Kardec, God wished to enlighten men no longer by the voice of a single person ("who can be deceived, or deceive himself"), but by encouraging mediums from all countries to gather the Truth from High spirits.

 « If the Spiritist doctrine were a purely human conception, it would have as guarantee only the lights of the one who would have conceived it; but no one here below can have the well-founded claim of possessing absolute truth alone. »

 « I am very happy that many people in your world today are becoming receivers to establish communication with light-energy beings.
 This kind of communication has existed at many times in the history of your planet, and with different intensities.
 These phenomena of intercommunication become almost necessary at times when souls on your planet feel completely imprisoned in physical bodies, experiencing emotions so intensely that they feel smothered and suffer from claustrophobia. The world of light becomes compassionate to this form of misery and facilitates communication to comfort them. Welcome communicators. There will be an answer. »
[Message from Edgar Cayce from beyond]

 Mockery and imposters undermine credibility

  « We have two records in our beautiful country: that of the narrow-mindedness to approach the themes of the paranormal and that of the consumption of psychotropic drugs.
 (...) In our country, spiritist behaviors are marginalized, psychiatrized and violently opposed. The weapons are derision and mockery. »
[ Dr. JJ Charbonier ]

 « Denying everything would be stupid.
  Accepting everything would be dangerous. »
(A. Ray-Wendling, "A Sun Too Late")magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Anne Ray-Wendling on the subject of:

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 « Spiritual research should be placed on a scientific basis. It must, moreover, be protected from the errors caused by the spirits dwelling on the threshold of the invisible and who, by their lies, frequently pervert the truth that enlightened spiritual intelligences strive to transmit to humanity. »
(Dr. Carl Wickland, 'Thirty Years Among the Dead')magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Carl Wickland on the subject of:

The death

 But a door to open with care

 To prevent the evil forces, close to the Earth, from intervening during these exchanges, or even from infiltrating the medium, the contacts are codified and framed by strict warnings. It is therefore strongly discouraged to invoke the spirits for futilities of a playful, material or even sentimental order, and to always seek assistance and divine protection.
 « Spiritism practiced by the ignorant is as dangerous as jumping into the void. For years spent in the most diverse groups, I have witnessed catastrophes: possessions, suicides, nervous breakdowns, very serious mental disorders.
 Ignorant beings awaken forces which are unknown to them and whose origin they cannot perceive. They are therefore unable to control them and fall at their mercy. »
[ Elisabeth Haich, "Initiation" ]

 « There is a recommendation that we cannot repeat too often, it is to weigh and mature, it is to submit to the control of the most severe reason, all the communications you receive. »
[Message collected by Allan Kardec]

 But these precautions are rarely followed and in the popular mind, spiritualism has become synonymous with cartomancy, charlatanism, deception. The fact is that there are more cheaters than serious psychics and many imposters make money by imitating sessions. But the most serious is when, to distract oneself, one "plays" the ouija board (see above " Dangerous contacts ").

 Spiritism sessions

 « Whenever men assemble, they have with them an occult assembly which sympathizes with their qualities or their failings, and this apart from any thought of evocation. Suppose that a gathering of frivolous, inconsistent men had the possibility of conversing with the beings of the invisible world through an interpreter, that is to say, a medium; who are those who will respond to their call? Obviously those who are there, all ready, and who are only looking for an opportunity to communicate. They will certainly not be superior minds, any more than our scholars or our philosophers would spend their time there. »
[Allan Kardec]

 « One can recognize the creeping souls☆ Excerpt from the page: "Low-astral" :

wandering spirits

  « Some spirits remain attached to matter. Their low vibrations keep them close to the reality of the living. They didn't “cross over”. Some are evil spirits, others are wandering spirits, and still others are ghosts.

Wandering spirits  are in transition between our material world and the afterlife. They generally continue to live among us for a short time, but this situation can last for centuries! Indeed, the wandering spirit retains its free will ( as well as his personality and inclinations ) , and it depends only on him to cross the course. »
[ Patricia Darré (medium) ]

following...
from the lower astral when communication leaves a certain weariness and does not create a deep and lasting joy. If so, we must cut short these communications which are exhausting, and which are really of no help.

 However, if you want to communicate with deceased relatives whose deaths are quite recent, then it is better to speak to your guides from the world of light. They will pass on the messages to you, and if they deem it appropriate, they will establish direct communication with you. For a more or less long time, the newly landed souls are stunned. Thus communications risk being exhausting for the earthly being and irritating for the soul which experiences a form of new birth. »
[a reading by Edgar Cayce]

  « During the session, the spirits use the client's energy as well as mine.

 (...) From the moment I transmit the message of a spirit to a loved one, in general, the life of the person is transformed forever. When communication is established between the two worlds - material and spiritual - nothing less than a miraculous rapprochement takes place.

 (...) When I send them a message with the inflections and mimicry of the loved one, they suddenly realize that the latter is not dead! Also, they feel love pouring into the room from the spirit world
☆ This presence of love is the guarantee that it is not a question of deception of the lower astral. Moreover, any session with a real medium, consulted for a high purpose, begins with a joint prayer addressed to God. .

 During reunions, the living become aware, perhaps for the first time, that death has not stripped them of their loving relationship. They understand that loved ones are still near them, and are reassured to know that they will be there to welcome them when it is their turn to enter the spirit. They also realize that they cannot go on living the same way, since they have heard the testimony of the beyond and felt its love. They are no longer in ignorance. Knowing that death does not exist, they are free to live their lives. In an instant, their tormented existence turns into a life that welcomes newness every day, every moment. »
(J. Van Praagh, 'Dialogues with the Beyond')magnifying glassAuthorContributions by James Van Praagh on the subject of:

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« The mediums are the living affirmation that a bond of love endures between the two sides of reality. »
(Allison Dubois (medium))magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Allison Dubois on the theme of:

The WAY, LIFE or DEATH

The mediums, the mediumship

Their credibility
How do they reach the deceased?
Their relations with the spirits
The various forms of trance
Mediums' reports
 ▪ Violent deaths
 ▪ Suffering at the time of death?
 ▪ Message from a teenager
 ▪ Roger

  « God has sent, as in the time of the prophets, a rain of mediums throughout the world to shed light on the mysteries. »☆  Many so-called psychics simply abuse the distress of others. However, beings capable of relating to the invisible world have existed, and still exist. They bring back very important messages.

Always discreet,

 . They get little or no pay

 . They always act for the good

 . They pray and invoke God before any contact
[Allan Kardec]

 Their credibility

 « I wish there were more flattering words than 'clairvoyant' or 'seeing' to refer to people like me, because those terms are forever tainted by the scammers they are readily associated with. For my part, I speak quite simply of "gift".
 (...) Many scammers discredit our activity. A consultant told me that a clairvoyant offered her candles for ten or fifteen dollars explaining to her that their flames repelled the harmful forces causing all her worries.
 (...) Flee from clairvoyants who tell you that you will only find love by lighting a hundred-dollar candle or whatever nonsense. »
(Allison Dubois (medium))magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Allison Dubois on the theme of:

The WAY, LIFE or DEATH

 How do they reach the deceased?

 « The medium works, in a way, like a radio antenna. To enter into communication with a dead person, it is necessary to be able to capture its frequency. The transmitter and the receiver must both be on “the same wavelength”… in the literal sense of the term! Some deceased will therefore more easily contact certain mediums than others. »
[ Patricia Darré (medium) ]

 « Good spirits have an affinity, an attraction, for good spirits, and bad ones for bad ones. If the medium is vicious, the inferior spirits gather around him and are always ready to take the place of the good spirits that have been called upon. »
[Allan Kardec]

 « A medium manages to tune into the very high vibration of the etheric body☆ Excerpt from the page: "The beyond" :

The astral body

 (or spiritual body or etheric body)

  « The spiritual body is the exact replica of the physical body, because it develops in symbiosis, first in the embryo, then in the child, then the adolescent.

 (...) At our death, while the physical body will crumble into dust, our spiritual body will continue its existence. Despite its somewhat ethereal appearance in photographs, the soul is not something totally immaterial. It retains a certain consistency. »
[ Alain Joseph Bellet (medium) ]

following...
after death. He has the ability to cross the thin veil that separates material life and spiritual life. If we all constantly receive impressions from the spiritual world, the medium has the ability to interpret them. The message is then transmitted to the conscious to be revealed. »
(J. Van Praagh, 'Dialogues with the Beyond')magnifying glassAuthorContributions by James Van Praagh on the subject of:

The WAY , LIFE or DEATH
 « The material no longer being a brake, we can directly capture the emotion of the deceased without going through words. Whatever the language used by him during his lifetime, no problem of understanding arises, and fortunately! »
[ Patricia Darré (medium) ]

 « The medium does not access the place where the deceased are. They are the ones who come to him. More exactly, they meet halfway. They lower their vibratory rate, and the medium raises his level of consciousness. He then sees the deceased appear surrounded by a more or less irradiating luminous field. The vision of this flashover immediately tells him what stage they are at.

 As soon as you ask a medium a question, he has the sensation of tipping over at the level of his mind, of falling back. He then has to free himself to go back up. »
[ Stéphane Allix, about mediums ]

 Their relations with the spirits of the astral

 « Become a social person again, mingle with the crowd of the living! It is already planned that you establish contacts with certain people. Each meeting is already prepared in advance. Your agenda is full of appointments, if you want to know! We need you to expand and create new links between Heaven and Earth. »
[ Sylvie Lorain-Berger, "The messengers from beyond" ]

 « The medium acts only when he is authorized to do so, for useful and beneficial purposes. This excludes any drift consisting of "manipulating", "trading", "taking power" and developing an excessive ego. The medium is only an intermediary between the beyond and the living on the one hand, and between his guides and the deceased on the other. »
[ Patricia Darré (medium) ]

 ☞  An essential role of mediums: helping souls to pass☆ Excerpt from the page: "Low-astral" :

helping the spirits

to find the light

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  "What must be understood is that there is a first level made up of deceased beings whose soul, because it was malnourished on earth (not informed), wanders very close to humans, sometimes to lose them, sometimes to ask them for help. »
[ Arnaud Gourvennec, celestial messages ]

A very important role of the (true) mediums is to help these souls "let go" of the Earth to turn their eyes towards Heaven.
Already in the time of the pharaohs:

 « Certain priestesses, immersed in a sacred sleep, help the confused souls who, after death, wander in the terrestrial atmosphere, to find their way. Without this assistance, they might still stagnate for hundreds or even thousands of years.
 The priestesses look for these tormented souls, locked up in themselves. With all the force of love they penetrate their essence and imbue their consciousness with ideas that will allow them to find a just solution to their condition. The mission of these priestesses is therefore twofold: they help these wandering souls to move forward and, simultaneously, cleanse the earth's atmosphere. »
[ Elisabeth Haich, "Initiation" ]

following...

 The various forms of trance

 « A medium in a trance chooses to leave his physical body. It does this very briefly, leaving an empty shell or vessel for the spirit to use. Using the vocal cords, the entity can then communicate "through" the medium.

 There are three forms of trance: with the slight, the medium is aware of everything that is happening, even if he is unable to intervene or stop anything. I can see and hear, while a force manipulates my body like a puppeteer manipulates a doll. In the intermediate form of trance, the medium has little awareness of the process, while in the last, he is completely unaware of what is going on. »
[Rosemary Altea, "A Long Ladder to Heaven"]

 « To convey its message, the disembodied soul will use a considerable part of the medium's vital energy.

 (...) To attune myself to the thoughts and feelings of a spirit, I must raise my vibrations and the spirit must in turn lower its own somewhat. This is sometimes very difficult. »
(J. Van Praagh, 'Dialogues with the Beyond')magnifying glassAuthorContributions by James Van Praagh on the subject of:

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 « The second medium contact was even stronger, and really began to ease Linda's suffering. She had finally understood that her husband had left at the time that should have been his. There was nothing to blame. It was so. Everyone has their time! The spirit of her husband asked her to continue on her way, watching over their children. Linda had truly admitted that she had to let her husband evolve in the afterlife by making sure that no pain held him back.

 Today, she still thinks of him, but peacefully. She accepted his departure. »
[ Alain Joseph Bellet (medium) ]

 « Sometimes the invisible can remain a prisoner of the visible, for many years. They intertwine. There's no (physically) young woman locked in the cellar, it is her spirit which is there and which asks me for help. It's a bit like he's suffocating in our reality. »
[ Michèle Decker, "Life on the Other Side" ]

- It's my house.

 - You have been dead for many years.

- No.

 The unfortunate is dead and he does not know it. The phenomenon is common. Many – too many! – are the beings who die unprepared. It is true that many of us prefer not to think about the big passage. Many refuse to live their lives with their eyes open; and these, as they were unconscious of their life, will be unconscious of their death.

 Some remain prostrate in uncertainty. Those need help and love to find within themselves the balance that will allow them to open up to the other dimension.

- Mom died when I was twenty.

 - Your mom is with you, and you don't see her. »
[ Michèle Decker, "Life on the Other Side" ]

 « The deceased confirms the death and burial of a colleague: "Oh, yes, a beautiful funeral". In thought, I send him this message:

 - The deceased colleague is you!

- What ? Me ? he replies. Was that my funeral?

 The dead thus took part in the conversation without realizing that they were talking about him. After being hit by a car, he had to get up and go home saying to himself: "Phew, I had a narrow escape." He had continued to go to the office, where he had learned of the death of a colleague. In fact, the wandering spirit has an altered consciousness because it no longer has a physical body. His perception of our reality can seem to us in many ways disjointed and absurd. Most are simply lost, lost. They had, after their physical death, difficulty in raising their vibration and, as a result, they are still very close to us and to our daily lives. Those who have understood that they are dead wonder what they are doing there... and if there is an exit☆ Excerpt from the page: "Low-astral" :

wandering spirits

  « Some spirits remain attached to matter. Their low vibrations keep them close to the reality of the living. They didn't “cross over”. Some are evil spirits, others are wandering spirits, and still others are ghosts.

Wandering spirits  are in transition between our material world and the afterlife. They generally continue to live among us for a short time, but this situation can last for centuries! Indeed, the wandering spirit retains its free will ( as well as his personality and inclinations ) , and it depends only on him to cross the course. »
[ Patricia Darré (medium) ]

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[ Patricia Darré (medium) ]

Timmy, a deceased young man, describes to a medium his approach with another medium:

 The woman with brown dyed hair keeps her eyes closed waiting for something.

 « She's getting ready, she's waiting for me. She's a medium,
said Timmy amusedly, . You know, I saw several before I found the one that would be able to really hear me. One of them was talking nonsense. She would hear a word or two and embroider around it. She didn't convey anything I wanted to say.
 The one you see there is simple and has always had the ability to see or hear what “others” do not see. She does not tell stories and sincerely wants to help people who have lost theirs. She knows how to dismiss them when they get attached to the messages like a drug… because it is. »
 Timmy laughs heartily.

 He brushes against the startled lady.

 - Are you there Timmy?
she says

 Timmy stands in front of her and she seems reassured:

 - Yes, I know it's you. Tell me, what do you want to tell your parents? You have already told them so many things.

 Once a month, he agreed to communicate what he feels, what he knows through this woman. His parents finally accepted his departure and their life resumed its course with the gift of an opening to the invisible worlds.

 « I come this time to thank you and to say goodbye because I will soon return to earth. My testimony has been heard by more than one and that thanks to you. This time we have finished our collaboration… thank you! »

 The young man delicately places a kiss on the rounded cheek of the dark-haired woman who, moved, lets a small tear roll down her cheek, the only witness to their farewell. »
(A. Givaudan, 'La rupture de contrat')magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Anne Givaudan on the theme of:

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 Violent deaths

Here are two examples borrowed from François Brune☆ French Catholic priest, born in 1931, author of numerous works on theology, spirituality and life after death :  

  « A worker kills himself instantly by lighting a blowtorch in a poorly cleaned and poorly ventilated empty petrol tank. Which of course won't prevent him from going home quietly… without his carnal body, the only one unfortunately that most people can see.
 At home everyone is in tears and talks about his death. He tries to reassure his mother, to show her that he's there, to talk to her... useless efforts. It is finally at a neighbor's that he will find assistance. First a woman who, without seeing him, feels his presence and can, in thought, converse directly with him. It will take a lot of patience for this woman to make him admit that he has passed into the other world. Finally, one of his relatives, who passed away before him, will come to pick him up. On the occasion of a contact he declared: "How is it that such important things are not taught in the Church? They are criminals not to talk about it. That would have saved me a lot of anxiety on this side in the early days." »
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 « A poor Portuguese truck driver had an accident. The cabin is completely charred, but he must have passed away without realizing it because he continues to make desperate efforts to straighten his truck. It is a young medium who, passing near the place of the accident by car, was able to understand and describe the scene. »

 Suffering at the time of death?

 « In many cases, the person who dies violently is unaware that the dying process has taken its course. The mind can ignore what it has experienced for many years. During which he will be able to visit all the places he has visited during his earthly existence, believing that he is still alive, but that he is dreaming.

 I am often asked if the loved one suffered at the time of the fatal impact. In the majority of cases, there is a loss of consciousness and the mind retains no memory of the event. Often a spirit will claim to have seen the vehicle in pieces and wondered what unfortunate person had been killed. He won't realize he's had this experience until he recognizes his own inanimate form. »
(J. Van Praagh, 'Dialogues with the Beyond')magnifying glassAuthorContributions by James Van Praagh on the subject of:

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 « When one 'dies', the soul slips out of the body and enters the spiritual realm. If the death is violent, it leaves him quickly, sometimes even before the actual death. If a person is the victim of an accident or a fire, for example, his soul will be able to rise and find peace before the manifestation of pain, while his carnal envelope will still appear alive for a few moments. »
[Betty J. Eadie, "In the Arms of Light"]

 Message from a teenager

Message from Hervé Dougé transmitted to his mother through the medium:

 « Mom, we are not hidden, we are among you until you come back among us. But remember that a hasty departure like mine was recorded in my travel book. So don't ask why or how.
 My soul approach when you need me, but takes a step back when you want an answer. Mom, hush! No tears for me tonight, but a smile because I'm near you. It's not a mystery, but a reality that you don't believe because we don't have the same vibrations.

 You know, I didn't like to obey, especially when I had an idea in mind, but I was talking with my eighteen-year-old self. But here present, I will speak to you with the age of my evolution. Mom, sweet mom, I love you. I can now say it very loudly because I have left my adolescence aside and I am constantly growing by associating myself with others to do guardian angel missions.

 When I arrived in Heaven, a beautiful angel came to meet me. He was my guide on Earth, that old grandfather you lost!

 Never lose faith, we are alive and well, we are not waiting for the last judgment to wake up.

 Papa, my dear papa, to whom I very often brought more trouble than happiness, because I answered and often I slammed the door so as not to hear your speeches which would have been good advice for me. Dad, sorry, my dad for my ungrateful way of my adolescence, and now be happy to know that I am happy. I love you, my father, because I have grown in wisdom. »
(R. Terral-Meyer, 'Lettres de l’invisible')   magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Rosine Terral-Meyer
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 Roger

 « Roger (one of the many deceased that the medium tolerates around her) died at the age of thirty-nine, falling from his roof. His wife remarried after two years to one of his best friends. He finds it hard to bear it. He hoped that she would mourn longer and avoid remarrying this "profiteer" René...

 - He doesn't love her, you know, he only wanted my house, my belongings, I know that today… What a hypocrite! How can she be so blind? What's more, he doesn't take care of my fifteen-year-old son… Can you imagine, my kid started smoking and he doesn't care!

 I listen to Roger's endless lamentations. He broods over his pain. He's a wandering soul who can't get away from his wife and child, even though he's been dead for eight years already. When he's not at my house, he's at his old house monitoring the thoughts of his loved ones. He saw his friend gradually transforming all the rooms in the pavilion to erase the slightest trace of the deceased. Only a small photo of him sits on the small desk in his son's bedroom. Before, his son Ludovic spoke to him in a whisper in his bed, without suspecting for a moment that his father was listening to him attentively.

 Sometimes Roger dropped a trinket to signify his presence, but Ludovic never made the connection between the two. He imagined his father in Heaven with the angels. He called him many times to prevent his mother from remarrying this man who does not love him, but he never had any sign, so...

 Roger remains on the fringes of a Heaven and an Earth where we, the living, cannot do much for him, except pray that he turns to the brighter planes. I listened to him in order to bring him peace of soul, when it is not possible to find it on this plane of the astral. The shrunken space where he takes refuge, like so many other deceased, is a level of consciousness where negative thoughts constantly activate and bruise him while obsessing him. His house still belongs to him, like his wife. He remains attached to materialistic values. He feels alive, but excluded from his world, he feels very unhappy.

 « Each human being is surrounded by guides, entities of his family, friends who left before them. Even if they think they are alone, they are very surrounded... On the other hand, your "friends" (the wandering dead the medium tries to help) , are really lonely without you. They do not perceive their guides, and their egocentrism means that they do not see the other deceased who surround them; they are in an opaque fog.... Even if you establish contact between them, after this contact, a feeling of isolation falls on them like a heavy curtain. The illusion of being rejected persists because of their refusal to die to the earthly world. »

 The idea of ​​a spiritual hell after death baffles me. Also I want to heal these deceased of their grief, to arouse their forgiveness. But once and for all, I had to adopt the idea that leaving the body does not transform the soul. The etheric double follows us, imbued with our thoughts, and some are like dried mud on this one. Weighed down, he cannot move on higher planes.

 - Roger, I'm preventing you from evolving. It's time for you to turn to your true friends, your guides who are just waiting to lead you to higher spheres.

 - Which guides? Who are you talking about ?

 - Spiritual guides who protect us.

 - What is this nonsense! I don't see anyone who looks like a guide.
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 The medium takes news of another of her "proteges":

 - And Arlette, will she move to the next plan?

 - Yes, listening to you she understood that for her the Earth is a hell and that she will be more loved elsewhere. Your request touched his soul and this emotion allowed him to distinguish the guides of light who came to meet him. She followed them. »
[ Sylvie Lorain-Berger, "The messengers from beyond" ]


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An application for the trials of life

 Does thought emanate from the brain?

 « It is accepted that consciousness is produced by the brain, as bile is by the liver. If the brain is clinically dead, consciousness should stop.
 However, it is the opposite that occurs during NDEs. »
[ Stéphane Allix, about mediums ]
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Dr. Charbonier, in his book "This thing...", distinguishes between two forms of consciousness:

The cerebral analytical consciousness [the mental, the intellect] :

« This consciousness is connected to all of our sensory perceptions. It analyses, measures, evaluates our environment and the behavior of those around us. It reinforces the ego by a work of comparison with the others; we think, "I am more this or less that than my neighbor." This incessant evaluation, much more important in adults than in children, most often results in negative feelings : jealousy, anger, fear, or hatred. »

The extraneuronal intuitive awareness [consciousness, mind] :

« This consciousness is connected to all our extrasensory perceptions (mediumship, intuitions, premonitions, clairvoyance...). »

 Everything shows that they are distinct

This capacity for perception and exchange is called "extraneuronal" because it has now been demonstrated that it is independent of the brain (cf. The Pamela Reynolds case )

 « Real thinking is not the business of the brain.
 (...) Those who claim that there is no proof of the phenomena indicating the existence of an extended consciousness, when on the contrary they are considerable, are deliberately ignorant. »
 LoupeAuteurContributions of Pr Alexander on the theme of:

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 « Let us wake up from the torpor of the materialistic model. The data is there and the evidence is there; everything fits: there is indeed a consciousness that persists after death. Read the books, watch the reports, listen to the testimonies! »
(Dr Olivier Chambon, psychiatrist,
"Extraordinary experiences around death")
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1st observation:
 « The activity of this consciousness is inversely proportional to brain activity.
 It is increased during sleep, coma, general anesthesia and is at its peak during clinical death (total cerebral inactivity. We will only speak of coma exceeded when clinical death has become irreversible).

 The information given by the intuitive consciousness is not recognized by the mental. So he excludes them. »

Second observation:
 « The mental blocks the activity of the intuitive consciousness, in the adult. The child, whose mental is still undeveloped, often plays with invisible friends or can remember their past life. Beyond seven-eight years, the mental takes over. »

This, after more than 30 years as anesthetist-resuscitator and study of these phenomena, Dr. Charbonier demonstrates this:
 « In the waking state, we have brain electrical activity above 14 hertz. From this frequency, the mental inhibits intuitive awareness. However, mediumistic contacts only take place when the mental is turned off or muted. For an ordinary individual, it is impossible to silence his mental outside periods of sleep, general anesthesia, coma, hypnosis or cardiac arrest.
 In the pre-sleep phase, our brain activity drops below 10 hertz. We can, in this lapse of time, hear whispered voices, see shapes or silhouettes appear, while our eyes are closed. »

Mediums:
 « The mediums manage to maintain this state of perception while being able to quickly use their mental to give back to us what they have received. These successive round trips are difficult to achieve and very tiring for the medium. An excess of mental would distort the message by interpreting the information received, while an excess of intuitive awareness would prevent their restitution. Not just anyone can be a medium, but the potential exists in each of us. »
[ Dr. JJ Charbonier, 'This thing...' ]



 An application for the trials of life

 Having observed that after a NDE [ Cf. Chapter below ], the "experiencers" go through difficult events with exceptional serenity, Dr. Charbonier is convinced that this particular disposition lies in the ability to easily access the intuitive awareness ☆

extraneuronal intuitive  awareness [consciousness, spirit].

« This consciousness is connected to all our extrasensory perceptions (mediumship, intuitions, premonitions, clairvoyance...). » Dr Charbonier

freeing oneself from the grip of the mental☆

cerebral analytical  consciousness [the mental, the intellect].

« This consciousness is connected to all of our sensory perceptions. It analyses, measures, evaluates our environment and the behavior of those around us. It reinforces the ego by a work of comparison with the others; we think, "I am more this or less that than my neighbor." This incessant evaluation, much more important in adults than in children, most often results in negative feelings : jealousy, anger, fear, or hatred. »

(see "The 3 keys to overcoming life's worst trials" (Editions Guy Trédaniel)).

 In short, it is about reacting positively to an event. Thus, faced with the death of a person who is dear to us (the ordeal reputed to be the hardest), the mind returns to the nostalgia of the past by thinking of the pleasant moments: "I won't go through this with her again". He worries about the future: "What will become of me without her?" . He thinks of the surroundings: "What will I represent for them now? They will avoid me or space out their visits so as not to be confronted with my sadness?". It can even suggest a certain anger towards the deceased: "Why did you leave me ?" »

 « It is the mental that participates in this drift by giving false solutions , developing escape techniques (taking refuge in excessive work, alcohol, drugs, gambling, etc.) which are in reality so many bad solutions.
 To avoid this destructive gear, only one solution: cut yourself off from your mental in order to be able to connect to the extraneuronal intuitive consciousness. » ☆

extraneuronal intuitive  awareness [consciousness, spirit].

« This consciousness is connected to all our extrasensory perceptions (mediumship, intuitions, premonitions, clairvoyance...). » Dr Charbonier

[ Dr. JJ Charbonier ]


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The considerable progress made in the field of resuscitation has elicited fantastic testimonies. And at the same time, the advent of the Internet has not only made it possible to confront them, but to reinforce them with a continuous stream of authenticated cases.

Note that these spontaneous testimonies corroborate what has always been asserted by religious texts and mediumistic messages .

Wanderings on the verge of death

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 What is it about ?

   « The NDE or EMP ( Experiencing Temporary Death in french☆  « All the people who have survived cardiac arrest have returned from clinical death. Also, I prefer the term EMP to that of EMI. Clinical death in these cases is neither imminent (EMI) nor close (NDE), but indeed effective.  »

( Dr. JJ Charbonier " )

), a subject well known today to the general public, are experienced by people («experiencers. ») who, following an accident or health problems, find themselves clinically dead for a few seconds or minutes before being revived. If some don't remember anything, others make strange testimonies of what they experienced during this period of time. What is interesting and what has drawn attention to the phenomenon is that these experiences, reported by people of different cultures and religions, have common points:
  • * Find yourself outside your body, see yourself lying down, inanimate, like an outside spectator,
  • * Then go through a "tunnel" leading to a light.
  • * For some, the vision stops there, for others the journey continues into the light.
 Most of the time, the person is accompanied or welcomed by the deceased whom they have known, sometimes by beings who are unknown to them. In the majority of cases, the sensations described relate to unconditional love, perfect harmony, deep peace and well-being… After an NDE, the people interviewed say they are no longer afraid of dying and are transformed. »
[ Patricia Darré (medium) ]

 « Since the 1960s new techniques have allowed doctors to resuscitate patients who once would have died.
 Unknowingly, these doctors are producing a line of travelers from beyond earth, people who see through the veil and come back to tell the tale. Today, their number reaches several million. »
 LoupeAuteurContributions of Pr Alexander on the theme of:

LOVE , DEATH

 « Professor Sabom will not be able to establish any correlation between the probability of NDE and the age, sex or race of the survivors. Neither their profession, nor their religious convictions, nor even the cause of their clinical death will seem to have played on this probability.

 During the first year, however, Michael Sabom remained incredulous. He is convinced of the existence of "hidden variables". He is convinced that a simple explanation will emerge at some point, one that had not been thought of before.

 (...) But one by one, the objections he builds up crumble under the almost frightening pressure of the testimonies. After a year and a half, he becomes afraid. Is he not the victim of a gigantic deception? Could it be that Raymond Moody☆ Raymond Moody,  

doctor of philosophy and American physician, who for over twenty years collected testimonies from people claiming to have had a near-death experience.
'Life after life'
 'New lights on life after life'
is not a charlatan? »

French journalist and writer)
 magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Patrice Van Eersel on the theme of:

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 Why does this seem new?

 « The phenomenon [of return from apparent death] is not new since already in older times it is pointed out by Pliny, Socrates, Plotinus, Plutarch or Plato who all spoke of “travels of the soul”.

 The experience of Saint Paul on the road to Damascus has many points in common with what is today called NDE. »
(Pierre Jovanovic, "Investigation into the existence of Guardian Angels")

American researchers, in a study carried out via questionnaires published in 2010 on a website and translated into the main languages, made it possible to demonstrate the universality ofNDE . So, what failed with spiritualism (the idea that identical messages collected from different parts of the globe could only be authentic) is demonstrated today thanks to the technology.

 « As these phenomena are experienced by hundreds of millions of psychically healthy people, from all social and economic backgrounds, from all continents and from all eras, I told myself that the testimonies collected could not be attributed to mythomaniacs, mentally ill or even under treatment. Besides, it couldn't be hallucinations or fantasies, otherwise the descriptions would be very variable. »
(Dr Olivier Chambon, psychiatrist,
"Extraordinary experiences around death")
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 « Nowadays, more than ever before, there are people who have come to the brink of death and come back. Technological progress in medicine makes it possible to restart a heart, restore respiratory function and maintain blood pressure. About 40% (!) of the millions of people who are revived around the world each day, claim to have less fear of dying and a stronger belief in another life.
 After five years of study, what I learned at the bedside caused me to reconsider some of my fundamental beliefs. I would like to share the thrill and the fascination that I felt in immersing myself in the study of these questions, questions that lead back to the problem of the deep nature and the meaning of life.
(Michael B. Sabom, Cardiologist, "Memories of Death")

 « It is interesting to compare the testimonies of EMP (NDE) with those of the deceased. If the deceased, in the afterlife, evoke a feeling of happiness and sometimes speak of light, what they tell is nevertheless very different. Where we go during an EMP is not where we will go when we die. »
[ Patricia Darré, medium ]



 Dr. Charbonier cites the testimony of Pamela Reynolds who experienced a NDE following a particularly delicate intervention in the brain:

 The testimony of an extreme case

 « I heard a noise that reminded me of the dental drill. I then went out on top of my head. In this state I had an extremely clear vision of the situation (follows a precise description of instruments, gestures and even dialogues between doctors).

 I suddenly felt a presence and when I turned around, I saw a tiny point of light. It seemed very distant and when I approached I heard my grandmother calling me. I immediately went to her. The closer I got to the light, then I saw people I knew. My grandmother did not look like an old woman; she was radiant. Everyone looked young, healthy and strong. I would say they were light, them or their clothes. I wanted to know about the music, about the sound of a waterfall, about the birdsong I was hearing and why they wouldn't let me go further. They told me (they thought and I heard) that I must not enter the light, otherwise they could no longer connect me to my physical self.
 Then seeing my body, I thought of a wreck. He looked what he was: dead. And I didn't want to go back there. My uncle told me it was like jumping into a swimming pool. “Come on, jump! he told me. And then he kind of slapped me on the back and when I hit the body, it was like I had fallen into a pool of freezing water. I will never forget that. »
[Dr. JJ Charbonier,
"Indisputable evidence of life after death"]



 Doctors in the face of testimonies

 “The Pamela Reynolds Case (above) would suffice on its own to prove - I did say prove - that consciousness is independent of the brain. And that it survives after death. Indeed, this woman was clinically dead for almost an hour. His blood-emptied body was cooled to 15°. The heart was no longer beating and the brain did not react to any stimulation (flat EEG, that is to say that there is no longer any transmission of information, no discharges, no active neurotransmission in the synapses) . However, she saw the operating tools used during the intervention, heard the doctors-nurses dialogues and was constantly aware of herself., and even with great lucidity, clarity of mind, sharp perception, memorization and reasoning skills, while his brain was no longer working. »
(Dr Olivier Chambon, psychiatrist,
"Extraordinary experiences around death")
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 « The experiences at the borders of death [NDE ] are not caused by a lack of oxygen in the brain, nor by drugs, nor by the psychological tensions caused by the fear of dying. They are absolutely real and not the result of hallucinations of the mind. Scientific research conducted over the past twenty years has established this. »
(Dr. Melvin Morse)

 « Doctors have told me that they couldn't understand how their patients had been able to describe to them the gestures they were performing to resuscitate them, unless they admitted that these patients were indeed floating at the height of the ceiling. »
(Dr. Raymond Moody,
'New Lights on Life After Life') 

 « Dr. Elizabeth Kubler-Ross cites the case of a blind man who experienced a state of clinical death. He recounted on his return, in great detail, the agitation of the doctors around his body, the color of their coats and their hair, their attitudes, their gestures, all things of which he could not have known in the normal state. »
(Dr Olivier Chambon, psychiatrist,
"Extraordinary experiences around death")
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 « The sequence of events described by patients who have returned from clinical death is almost always the same, regardless of culture, philosophy, place or religion.

 Everyone expresses it with their sensitivity and their culture. For example, a child victim of a cardiac arrest said to have seen “a big gentleman who lit himself up” to describe the being of light. Some meet Jesus Christ or the Virgin Mary, others Buddha, still others the Prophet Muhammad. But for all, now it is a certainty, life continues after death:

 "Even if a scientist managed to prove by A plus B that my experience was just a hallucination, I will not believe it for a second, because I am certain that what I experienced was very real and had nothing to do with a dream or a hallucination! »
[Dr. JJ Charbonier, "Indisputable evidence of life after death"]

 Disbelief

 « Some rely on the philosophical definition of death, 'a state from which one does not return', to affirm that the witnesses of NDE were not really dead because they came back; but it is as false as to say that someone did not go to visit such a country because he came back! »
(Dr Olivier Chambon, psychiatrist,
"Extraordinary experiences around death")
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The WAY , LOVE , LIFE or DEATH


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 Their own testimony

 « Eben Alexander, professor of neurology at Harvard, was until 2008 a resolutely materialistic scientist, teaching that NDEs could only be hallucinations produced by a dying brain. Until the day when "chance" made him live the famous experience, transforming the Mandarin into one of the most relentless defenders of the survival of the spirit. His book, "Proof of Heaven" - "Proof of Heaven" remained on the New York Times bestseller list for 97 weeks. For Raymond Moody, the experience of Eben Alexander is the most fascinating he has ever studied. »
[ Dr. JJ Charbonier ]

 Studies over years, around the world

  « I am happy to note that several doctors – and in particular Dr Elisabeth Kübler-Ross  – who have undertaken the same research as me, have recorded identical results.
 Many doctors, as well as men of the Church, have also furnished me with the assurance that they have long been aware of cases relating to these phenomena.
 During my conferences, some have publicly recounted their experience without even being prompted. As a result, many others besides me have been able to receive these direct testimonies from those who have seen death up close, so they have been able to feel and appreciate that impression of sincerity which has always struck me in these reportings.

 Based on all of this and many other factors, I can now confidently say that this phenomenon is undoubtedly widespread. So widespread, I would add, that the question will soon no longer arise, in my opinion, of whether this phenomenon really exists, but rather of discovering what lesson we can draw from it. »
( Dr Raymond Moody )

 « If these experiences were illusory, if there was no life after death, there would be no great harm; but if these testimonies reflect reality, then it would be better to be prepared for what awaits everyone (and re-examine our vision of life). The "Tibetan Book of the Dead"☆ The "Tibetan Book of the Dead" (downloadable from the Internet in pdf), for its contribution to the study of death, the afterlife and rebirth, is unique among sacred books. was written for this purpose. »
(Dr. Raymond Moody,
'New Lights on Life After Life')

Interview by Patrice Van Eersel with Kenneth Ring, professor emeritus of psychology at the University of Connecticut who has also published numerous books and director of the International Association for Near Death Studies (IANDS):

 « Until recently, the reaction of relatives to the story of an experiencer☆Person who, following an accident or a health problem, finds himself clinically dead before being revived. was negative, in 99% of cases! (see below: "Testimonials from experiencers ") Today, following the many books on the subject, tongues are loosened. The second reason for the sudden emergence of NDE is the tremendous improvement in resuscitation techniques. And we realized that a constant percentage of the “survivors” brought back an NDE story, with at least one exit from the body.

 Classification of cases into 5 stages

 The figures are around 40-50%, or almost one in two! This is the first stage.
 Second stage: 37% of this sample were able to see their bodies wondering if they were still alive. The answer usually being no.
 Third stage: 23% crossed at very high speed a tunnel or the equivalent, sidereal vacuum, well or other.
 Fourth stage: 16% said they saw the immense light and its radiance of intense love.
 Fifth stage: 10% of the resurrected people (millions on a planetary scale) have entered this light, but there the stories burst into a thousand versions. »
(Interview by Patrice Van Eersel with Prof. Kenneth Ring)

 ☞ More details below on the survivors of the fifth stage


 Why aren't there 100% experiencers ?

 « I am convinced that everyone who comes back from cardiac arrest has an experience to tell. Thus a young man, in the first minutes following his cardiac arrest, described to his mother a real NDE, in great detail. Except that a few days later, he couldn't remember anything. »
[ Dr. JJ Charbonier, 'This thing...' ]

 « It is absolutely not given to everyone to keep the memory of what happens during an apparent death. »
(Dr. Raymond Moody,
'New Lights on Life After Life')
 « It is the same with dreams. We dream every night, and even several times a night. However, if we do not notice it immediately upon waking, most of the time we have no memory of it. Only 35% of respondents are able to tell their dreams. »
[ Dr. JJ Charbonier, 'This thing...' ]

 - Why don't we always remember our dreams?

 « The body, heavy and coarse matter, retains with difficulty the impressions received by the Spirit, because the Spirit has not perceived them through the organs of the body. »
[Message collected by Allan Kardec]

Do experiencers  invent ?

 « A twelve-year-old girl had an NDE, and one day, unable to keep it to herself, she confided in her father. She told him that she had traveled to an incredible land full of love and beauty, that she had met her brother and had been comforted by him.

"The only problem, she concludes with regret, is that I don't have a brother..."

 Tears filled her father's eyes as he gave her the explanation: she did indeed have a brother, but he died three months before she was born.
[ Experience reported by Dr. Elisabeth Kübler-Ross ]


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(Patients with
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 A new understanding of life

Interview with Michael Sabom (renowned cardiologist who did not believe in the reality of NDE☆
 "I must admit that the first time I read 'Life After Life', I had the impression that these experiences were more or less forged by people abusing the good faith of Dr Raymond Moody, or well were embellishments made by Moody himself to release a bestseller. Five years and 116 interviews later, I am convinced that my suspicions were unfair, for several reasons:
 * If during the first year I had a bias, it was that of total disbelief. A patient, re-examined later, remarked to me: "You seemed to be looking only for what would allow you to refute the experience".

 * In fact, people wanted to protect the reality of their experience from the mockery of third parties. Not one was described to me voluntarily, with a view to sensational effect.

 * The experience was a powerful, motivating influence for many who had been through it. Such a consequence, by itself, provided indirect evidence that the experience was not a consciously forged story. »
(Dr. Michael Sabom, Cardiologist)
, but who, challenged to do his own investigation, obtained such astonishing results that he published books, the best known of which is 'Light and Death'):

 « The incredible difference that separates survivors who have experienced an NDE from survivors with no memory is that the former seem to have lost their fear of death forever, the latter not. In addition, they find themselves with a tenfold taste for life and say they are transformed. They say they now know how to recognize «what is important (life, daily details, availability, hospitality) from what is not (rank, roles, money)”. The effects on their lives are very real. Some stop drinking, for example, others go so far as to change jobs, or engage in voluntary work as first aiders or caregivers. (Nothing like this, however, when the survivor of death has had no particular experience during his "absence"). »
(Dr. Michael Sabom)

 « When I returned from my astral travels, I had more and more difficulty in accepting the daily chores, the clutter of the cities, the rush in the hypermarkets and I acutely perceived the aggressiveness emanating from our world. In contrast to what I was allowed to know episodically, it sometimes became intolerable, as if a ferocious caricaturist lent me his faculties of analysis. Blindness, selfishness, greed jumped out at me. But I didn't have to refuse the world and its pitfalls. I had to deal with society without falling into its traps, violent actions against imbalances can only lead in turn to other imbalances and other excesses. »
(D. Meurois and A. Givaudan, 'Terre d'émeraude')magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Anne Givaudan on the theme of:

The WAY , LOVE , LIFE , HEALTH or DEATH

 « The experiencers realize that a good part of their attitudes were dictated until then by the fear of the opinion of others. Wanting to make a good impression, longing for fame, fearing the laughter of others, all these disappear from their lives as childhood illnesses. Likewise, the excessive attachment to material goods – which they discover constitutes the real source of the famous “insecurity” that overwhelms modern societies – disappears.

 Nature takes on enormous importance. She seems to them infinitely more beautiful than before. The colours, the smells, the shadows, the grain of the surfaces… The details of everyday life. »
(Prof Kenneth Ring)

 « I no longer feel in tune with the people of this planet or with their values. I feel lost... and alone. It becomes more and more difficult to engage in conversations revolving around daily events. As I lose interest in what is happening in the world of politics, I am absolutely mesmerized by a sunset, I see the divinity in everything - every animal, every insect.

 (...) People have lost the ability to see the magic of life. They don't share my wonder at what's around me – or at just being alive. They seem stuck in a rut, their minds fixed on the next action to take. This is exactly what I was doing before my NDE.

 (...) I no longer consider death in the same way as others, so it has become difficult for me to mourn the loss of someone. Of course, if someone close to me dies, I'm sad because I miss them. But I no longer mourn for the dead because I know that in the other world they are happy. »
(Anita Moorjani "Dying to be me")

« Since my accident, confides a mountaineer to Patrice Van Eersel, I am no longer afraid of dying, and curiously, I am no longer afraid of living either; to approach people, to be friendly, all that. »

 « It's stronger than me,
said an old lady, I now love most people I meet, like very dear friends. »

 « Since my experience,
says a young woman, as soon as there is a family or marital problem in the neighborhood, it is me who comes to consult. It must be said that I never get angry again, I see the pain in people's eyes. »

 « People hurt themselves,
says a former boxer, they don't understand that the most important thing is our relationship with others. Love is the answer to everything. »

 « The real self that survives death,
a butcher boy from Ohio will say, is not, of course, the ego. It's just the opposite. »

French journalist and writer)
 magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Patrice Van Eersel on the theme of:

The WAY , LIFE or DEATH

However, for some, the experience is traumatic:

«The next morning a doctor asked me:

- Last night was critical for you. I would like to know what you experienced.

 I did not want to reveal the truth to him, and told him that I had been subject to terrible nightmares. I found it hard to talk about my trip to the afterlife, and it didn't take long to realize that I didn't want to tell my husband any more. The words seemed to water down the power of the event. The experience was sacred. »

Later

«I fell into a deep depression. It was impossible for me to forget the beauty and peace of the universe of the soul, and I thought only of returning there. I began to dread life, and even hate it at times.
 It was ultimately love for my family that saved me. I realized the injustice I was doing them by feeling sorry for myself. I had to participate again, get involved, forget about the soul world, and move on. »
[Betty J. Eadie, "In the Arms of Light"]

« Blanchard had tried to resist, but in vain. The attraction was too strong, and he started to descend. Down to what? Towards his own body, which he had finally seen, lying, inanimate, a few meters below. (…) Slowly he had the feeling of reintegrating his body, like one puts on a wetsuit, entering it through the head. An extremely painful impression, because this "physical combination" turned out to be infinitely heavy, painful and above all several sizes too small. When at last his gaze had found itself "behind his eyes" as if behind glasses, his body had begun to move, to the great relief of those who imagined him dead. »
(Patrice Van Eersel, 'The dark source') magnifying glassAuthorContributions by Patrice Van Eersel on the theme of:

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 ☞  Why it is better to forget where you come from

✩ ✩

 The 5th stage experiencers

« The 5th stage experiencers underwent a quadruple transformation: physical, emotional, intellectual and spiritual. Literally, they are mutants☆ We have sometimes, even without NDE , "the feeling of not being of this world": Excerpt from the page: "Despair, depression" :

The feeling

not to be of this world


This feeling is natural... since we are not of this world. For our soul, the Earth is a place of exile, and in moments of suffering or loneliness, it longs for the world it left behind.

 « Your drama is to dream of love in a climate of ice. »
[Celestial message from Roland de Jouvenel]

 « Each being is a citizen of two worlds, that of time and that of eternity. Paradoxically we are in the world and yet we are not of the world. »
( Martin Luther King )

 « You are embodied spirits experiencing matter for the time of an earth life. You do not belong to this world but to the spirit world. »
[ Alain Joseph Bellet (medium) ]

 « All your life you think you are your body. At times you think you are your spirit. It is at the moment of your death that you discover Who You Really Are.. »
[Inspired message to Neale Walsch]

. Their first feeling is negative. To have merged with the "sublime nectar" and then to return to the world constitutes a source of terrible difficulties.

 The survivor beaming with love usually begins by irritating his loved ones beyond tolerable. Everything that is relational and social shocks him; he finds our relations terribly rude. Thus the TV programs have the effect of a "pouring of vomit" in his own house. On the heads of his children! He can't let this happen! So hop, he turns off the small screen all the time. Faced with vehement protests, the unfortunate must learn to give up, to let his family stuff themselves with poison without flinching. He suffers greatly. What shocks him the most? the constant display of violence, physical or verbal.
"There's no reason in the world to show people killing others," a police officer indignantly said in a shocked voice. »

(Interview by Patrice Van Eersel with Prof. Kenneth Ring)

 « A woman tried to pass on her experience to her husband, but when she confessed to him that she would have given anything to be able to stay 'over there', he took it very badly. »

 - But these experiences must drive people to suicide! worries the journalist.

 - You want to laugh ! All these people who almost died come back in love with life like never before! They shout it out loud and it's very contagious. They manage to convince those around them that life is an indispensable opportunity to be exploited.
☆  « ... The result was not an increased 'will to die', but a renewed 'will to live'.
 (...) The experience did not lead these people to desire an early death, but allowed them to accept the reality of the approach of their death. »
(Dr. Michael Sabom, Cardiologist)

 Now their existence has taken on meaning. No more soft wandering. A spiritual life has awakened in them. Most do not recognize themselves – or no longer – in a particular cult. All are convinced of having been "returned to the level of earthly consciousness" with a specific mission: to help humanity to accelerate its evolution.

 More than three quarters of 5th stage experiencers return with donations. Some can heal by the laying on of hands . Or read people's minds. Or see the color of their aura. Or visualize their illness from a distance. Some see into the future, but most would gladly do without. The fact that everyday life becomes 100% predictable to them is a terrible ordeal.

 Child, the heart of our identity is constituted by denying death. It is the feeling of being immortal. Then come anxiety, limits. Immortal? promised to maggots, yes! Anyone who stops there is going crazy. To become a normal adult, the little man will start lying: “  Afraid of death, me? no way. The “normals”? mad liars. Happy ? but at the cost of what imposture? We gnaw at each other for nothing, and the final destination of the trip would leave us indifferent?

 - But why are the fifth stages so different?

 « All have suggested it: they are convinced that they have been returned to the level of earthly consciousness with a precise mission: to help humanity to accelerate its evolution. »
(Interview by Patrice Van Eersel with Prof. Kenneth Ring)

 « You have to 'kill' the ego, then be reborn in a dimension that transcends life. Most of the “serene survivors” have this sentence:«I felt like I was dying, then reborn. »
(Prof Ernest Becker)

« This experience changed my life like a simple flick. Me who was always worrying, who lived according to what was in front of me or behind me. But you can't live a day ahead or behind...
 I've found that there are some things that are just laughable. »
_ _

 « I am told that someone is dead, and I say that we should be happy about it. They leave us for a better life, for a world of happiness. I don't think I'm crazy for thinking that.
 There is something after life. It's a feel-good feeling. »
_ _

 « It completely changed my way of conducting myself in life. Before that, I drank beer, whiskey... Now I work in the voluntary service of the Veterans where I can go to visit the sick, talk with them...”
_ _

 « I used to go out, act crazy and get drunk. But not anymore... It wasn't just me that I was hurting, but also my wife and my kids.
 I had imagined that from your birth you are destined to die and that it is only to get there that you live.
Now , I believe there is much more to life than just reaching the end point. »
_ _

 « Now when I look at people, I feel like I actually love them, which I never felt before.
 I think we take our dimension through what we do for others, that we are here to help each other... the greatest law that we have is love. »
_ _

 « I don't cry when someone passes by. I know they are done suffering. »
(Testimonies collected by Professor Michael Sabom himself
"Memories of Death")


 « Some returns are physiologically incomprehensible. Thus, in July 1959, Betty Malz rested at Union Hospital in Indiana. Sterile, her belly completely gangrenous, she eventually died after a long agony. Dead. But no, suddenly she sits up, full of appetite. Stunned doctors try to understand. She asks for a meal, they oppose it, ordering an almost total diet: she no longer has a stomach and her poor intestines are ravaged! But a big meal arrives by mistake in the room. She swallowed it immediately. The unfortunate has every chance to die! But no, she is doing like a charm. Shortly after she leaves the hospital, makes love, and finds herself pregnant! »
(Prof Kenneth Ring)


☞ Below is a moving testimony

Or watch it on Youtube

 ☞ There is also this wonderful movie from 2016:"Miracles From Heaven"which recounts an authentic healing following a NDE .

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Shared death experiences

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In 1975, Dr. Raymond Moody published"Life after Life", the result of several years with survey of thousands of people "returned" to life. What is extraordinary about these testimonies is that these people, whatever their background, race, age or religion, describe the experience of the "other side" in a similar way. This book, translated into 26 languages, produced a real electric shock in the world.

Since then, Raymond Moody has given hundreds of lectures. During these, confidences are made to him, and at one point, he realizes the obvious: it is not only during a loss of consciousness or anesthesia that a person can detach yourself from your body and discover the world "after".

In a new study
("Glimpses of eternity. Sharing a loved one's passage from this life to the next, 2010"), he brings together many cases - collected by him or colleagues -, where one or more people (parents, children, spouses, nurses), assisting the death of a loved one, share at the time of his death, what he sees, what he hears, what he feels.

Dr. Moody names these cases:
"Experiences of empathetic or shared death" (empathy being the ability to feel someone else's emotions) or NDE.

This highly documented study is important because the testimonies quoted in
"Life after Life" have been attacked on all fronts: side effects of anesthesia, hallucinations, lack of oxygen to the brain, excessively high carbon dioxide levels, drug overdose... Although scientifically denied, these "explanations" have distilled a doubt.

However, during a "shared death experience", these phenomena are experienced by several healthy people, at the same time, who then say the same thing  !
☆

 * The room in which people find themselves is deformed, seems to open on another dimension.
 * The piece "fills with a light of love, peace".
 * Light presence(s) floating near the bed.
 * Music and musical sounds.
 * Decorporation: the person(s) has the sensation of stepping out of themselves, rising into the room, "floating out of their body".
 * To relive with the deceased the film of his past (the whole of his life or some fragments).
 * Discovery of unreal or "Edenic" landscapes.
 * "Mist" that rises above the body then takes the form of the deceased before disappearing.

Dr. Moody's note : No NDE includes all of these phenomena. Most often there are only a few.

Which makes Dr. Moody say:

 « These experiences shed an entirely new light on life after death. They offer a new field of study to science. And once these studies are completed, it will become clear that shared death experiences are the key to proving the existence of another life.
 [...] And since they are not explained by a defective cerebral chemistry, it will henceforth be necessary to find other arguments. »



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Negative NDEs

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  « Some people experience, and we talk less about, negative NDEs. They attend a spectacle worthy of the great clichés about hell. Souls in distress, who live in atrocious turpitude. The visions are not always hellish, but nonetheless constitute traumatic experiences of deep anguish and intense terrors. »
[ Patricia Darré (medium) ]

Many NDE "positives" actually start with a NDE negative:

 Testimony of Christian L.:

« I was on the ceiling and I saw the anesthetist giving me a cardiac massage. The surgeon asked him what he should do. There were many people around me trying to revive me. I then entered a kind of very dark cone which turned in a spiral and a strong current carried me away. As I passed, I passed the wrinkled and grimacing faces of people who were suffering terribly. The more I sank into the cylinder, which became narrower and narrower, the more people suffered. They were screaming but no sound came out of their mouths. It was terrible. When I arrived in front of a huge flame, I thought I was in hell and that I was going to burn right there. But the flame started dancing in a funny way and enveloped me to wonder how I had helped others. I didn't know what to answer. I then realized that my past life had been nothing but a series of petty thefts and pathetic scams. I thought only of getting rich by stealing and despising others.

 This NDE made me understand that we can only be happy by helping others. This is now what I do. My NDE also gave me the chance to be able to heal with my hands. I did it spontaneously as soon as I returned to life. I heal for free and it works. My friends no longer recognize me because I was what is called a businessman who only thought about money and now I am completely stripped, but completely free. I'm not afraid to die because I know I will have good deeds to show when I come back before God
. »
(Testimony collected by Dr. JJ Charbonier,
"The indisputable evidence of life after death")

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 Howard Storm, a former art department professor at Northern Kentucky University, described himself as self-centered, aggressive, narcissistic and feared by his family. Completely atheist, he does not believe in God or the afterlife.
In 1995 he experienced a NDE , and the beginning is terrifying.  When he recovered, his wife found him completely changed: he left university to become a Christian pastor!  He tells all about it in his book:

"My descent into death" (also found in French:"See Paris and Die").
But beyond the words, see his moving testimony

  Below is a moving testimony

Or watch it: on Youtube

 ☞ There is also this wonderful movie from 2016:"Miracles From Heaven"which recounts an authentic healing following a NDE .


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[ When the mind “unhook” ]

Comas, anesthesia

**
  « P eople in a coma are aware of what is happening around them while their body and brain remain unresponsive.
 One day, a patient of Dr. Charbonier, in a coma and intubated, informed him that she was suffocating. Her voice rang in the doctor's head, and as he checked, he saved her life as she was indeed choking ( Cf. below (1) ).
 Mediums have the ability to see the souls of comatose people. It's a somewhat milky figure, lying next to or above, or even further away from, the physical body, even walking around the halls of the hospital (and that's nothing exceptional ). In this case the medium sees the silver cord
☆ “The silver cord is the fluidic link that unites the physical body and the subtle body. This bond is broken at the moment of death and this breaking frees the soul. In sleep, the subtle body comes out of the physical body, but still remains connected to the silver cord. »

(Jean Prieur, "The country after")
which connects to each other.
 If the comatose is in a state of distress, if we practice on him a therapeutic relentlessness for example, the soul is graying, a sign that the person must be let go. Conversely, a whitish soul, slightly opaque, is the sign that the person can return.
 In any case, the mediums remind that they are accompanied, they are never alone. The deceased, guides, watch over them. »
[ Stéphane Allix, about mediums ]

 « I knew who these people were who came to see me and what they were doing. Although my eyes were closed, I was aware of every detail, around me and beyond. I felt like I knew and understood everything – including how everyone felt. I perceived their fears, their hopes and the resignation that the situation inspired in them.

 « I felt no attachment to my seemingly lifeless body lying on the hospital bed. It seemed far too small and insignificant to house what I was experiencing. I was not surprised to be able to hear the exchange between my husband and the doctor, yet at the end of the corridor.

 - There's nothing more to be done for your wife, Mr. Moorjani. His organs stopped working. She has lemon-sized tumors all over her lymphatic system. His brain is filled with fluid, as are his lungs. His skin is covered with purulent lesions. She won't even last the night, he told Danny.
 - Honey, please listen! I'm fine!

 From the moment I started to get involved in the drama that was playing out, I felt pulled back. »
( Anita Moorjani "Dying to be me" )


(1)This incredible experience gave Dr. Charbonier the idea of ​​placing a medium at the bedside of a comatose:

 « One question obsessed me: would mediums be able to get in touch with the intuitive consciousness of people in a coma or under general anesthesia? »☆

extraneuronal intuitive  awareness [consciousness, spirit].

« This consciousness is connected to all our extrasensory perceptions (mediumship, intuitions, premonitions, clairvoyance...). » Dr Charbonier


The answer is yes. In his book "This Thing...", he gives several stunning examples:

A medium at the bedside of a comatose:

 « (...) After several fruitless attempts, the medium went to another comatose. This one immediately reported a violent pain in his right leg. A cursory examination revealed no abnormality at this level, but the patient insisted. In desperation, he reproduced what he felt on the medium's right leg. The latter, screaming in pain, begged to deepen the checks. I prescribe without much conviction a venous Doppler of the lower limbs. This examination revealed deep phlebitis of the right calf! »
[ Dr. JJ Charbonier, 'This thing...' ]

A medium in an operating room:

 « (...) I injected a new dose of sleeping pill. After a few seconds, just when the EEG of the future operated on plunged below 4 hertz, i.e. at the very moment when the mental☆

cerebral analytical  consciousness [the mental, the intellect].

« This consciousness is connected to all of our sensory perceptions. It analyses, measures, evaluates our environment and the behavior of those around us. It reinforces the ego by a work of comparison with the others; we think, "I am more this or less that than my neighbor." This incessant evaluation, much more important in adults than in children, most often results in negative feelings : jealousy, anger, fear, or hatred. »

was at its weakest (and therefore the intuitive consciousness☆

extraneuronal intuitive  awareness [consciousness, spirit].

« This consciousness is connected to all our extrasensory perceptions (mediumship, intuitions, premonitions, clairvoyance...). » Dr Charbonier

This capacity for perception and exchange is called "extraneuronal" because it has now been demonstrated that it is independent of the brain (cf. The Pamela Reynolds case)

at its highest), the medium said to us: " That's it. is, I have it! ". She put her hands on her temples and continued: " She worries a lot about her son. She doesn't like to leave him alone! " The stupefied surgeon nearly dropped his bistoury. " Gee, that's amazing! I don't know how you know that, but indeed, the woman in there didn't want to have surgery because she has a disabled boy that she couldn't leave alone. "

 An hour later, in the recovery room, the woman did not remember communicating anything to anyone, nor thinking of her son while he slept. For her, the 45 minutes of anesthesia was a black hole in her memory. As soon as he woke up, his mental had swept away everything! »
[ Dr. JJ Charbonier, 'This thing...' ]


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Sleep-wake phase

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  « In a waking state, we have cerebral electrical activity above 14 hertz. From this frequency, the mental ☆

 The analytical brain consciousness [the mental, the intellect].

« This consciousness is connected to all of our sensory perceptions. It analyses, measures, evaluates our environment and the behavior of those around us. It reinforces the ego by a work of comparison with the others; we think, "I am more this or less that than my neighbor." This incessant evaluation, much more important in adults than in children, most often results in negative feelings : jealousy, anger, fear, or hatred. »
Dr Charbonier

inhibits intuitive awareness☆

Extraneuronal intuitive awareness [the consciousness, mind].

« This consciousness is connected to all our extrasensory perceptions (mediumship, intuitions, premonitions, clairvoyance)...). » Dr Charbonier

.  In the pre-sleep phase, our brain activity drops below 10 hertz. »
[Dr. JJ Charbonier, "Indisputable evidence of life after death"]

This is the right time for, after some honest introspection☆ Excerpt from the page: "Human relations" :
  « The personal issues that taint our happiness have grown and evolved with us; they are knots that reveal the difficulties encountered throughout a past life. To undo these knots, a wave of a magic wand is not enough, and there is no ready-made answer. The answer is always a path, a work on oneself, where one must be ready to question oneself, to get out of the "victimization" behind which we tend to take refuge. »
[ Patricia Darré (medium) ]

 ☞ Self-analysis

  In the evening before going to sleep,
   let's spend some time with ourselves.

 « In moments of isolation, one should strive to consider and judge the events of one's own life and one's own actions as if they were not our doing, but that of others.
  If we succeed in this, all our personal experiences appear to us in a new light. »
[ Rudolf Steiner ]

 ☞  The wake-sleep moment
 « It is extremely important to take the time to review our thoughts, our feelings. A regular recapitulation of what we are experiencing contributes to our conscious evolution.

 (...) Let us remember that our attitudes contribute in a very powerful way to the quality of our life. This mixture of thoughts and feelings works like a magnet in the spiritual plane. »
[ Ellen Tadd (medium) ]

 « Living each day as if it were your last would force you to realize the importance of being on the right path . »
[ Alain Joseph Bellet, 'Dialogues with the spirit world' ]

 « (...) The best thing is to take a step back, to observe yourself from the outside. »
[ Patricia Darré (medium) ]

, ask for help.
It can also be a good time to collect the help requested in the previous days. The difficulty is to, without waking up completely, engrave in our consciousness the intuitions, the inspirations which reach us then, as if from very far away. They will be good inspirations, unless we have harbored bad thoughts.

 « You went to bed angry. Now you feel the evil "puffs" coming to you. »
[Roland de Jouvenel speaks to his mother from beyond]


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Hypnosis

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  « For certain acts such as cataract surgery, varicose veins or even for removal of the thyroid gland, hypnosis works admirably well. It avoids injecting anesthetic products.
 By bringing the cortical electrical frequency of the brain from 21 hertz (wake state) to around 14 hertz, the suggestions of the hypnotist become those of the hypnotized. The mental being blocked, the patient no longer has any sensory perception. Only the intuitive consciousness is active. »☆

cerebral analytical  consciousness [the mental, the intellect].

« This consciousness is connected to all of our sensory perceptions. It analyses, measures, evaluates our environment and the behavior of those around us. It reinforces the ego by a work of comparison with the others; we think, "I am more this or less that than my neighbor." This incessant evaluation, much more important in adults than in children, most often results in negative feelings : jealousy, anger, fear, or hatred. »p class="pII">

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extraneuronal intuitive  awareness [consciousness, spirit].

« This consciousness is connected to all our extrasensory perceptions (mediumship, intuitions, premonitions, clairvoyance...). »

This capacity for perception and exchange is called "extraneuronal" because it has now been demonstrated that it is independent of the brain (cf. The Pamela Reynolds case)

On the strength of this observation, Dr. Charbonier then thinks of hypnosis to see if a subject in this situation could come into contact with his deceased, without the intermediary of a medium. Somehow reproduce a NDE , without cardiac arrest...  « But would the spirits of the deceased who show up be all well-meaning? Was there a risk of possession? It took me months to take advice from several mediums and recognized exorcist specialists. Thanks to their advice, essential precautions have been added to my protocol. Before each workshop, I make a prayer to ask for the necessary protections. I leave two minutes for the participant to say a prayer too.
 Most participants (~65%) had one or more contacts with deceased relatives. I have since hypnotized several hundred people this way. »

Here is an excerpt from an "excursion" report. It confirms that each of us is surrounded, followed, by a group of entities , totally involved in our life:

 « I see my mother, my father joins her. Questions swirl in my head. How are they ? Do they see us? What do they think of us? The answers are floating in the air:

« There are no important questions in your words. Nothing is serious. Let things come and go. Live, live and live again. We see you, we are by your side every day. If you have to ask yourself questions, we are here and you know it very well. We are part of you. Each of your decisions, you already know what we think. We are in everything you do. We are a bit of you and you are a bit of us. Your choices are all good. As long as you live things to the fullest. Live, because nothing else is asked of you. »
[ Dr. JJ Charbonier, 'This thing...' ]

So there is no "bad choice".
Any experience lived with consciousness makes us move forward, even "bad" experiences.


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Other cases
of "detachments"

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 The NDE place man in relation to the invisible, the unspeakable. Also its detractors were jubilant when people said they had experienced the same thing without going through any "pre-requisites" (anesthesia, cardiac arrest, fall...).

 During a conference in 2004, Dr. Raymond Moody was asked:

 - Can't we go through similar states without going through an NDE?

 « Apparently, yes. Many people have told me of experiences of decorporation which surprised them when they were neither sick nor in danger. I am also aware that sensations of being drawn into a tunnel are often experienced by people subjected to anesthetics, in particular ether. Nevertheless, I do not believe that the effects of anesthesia can validly explain the phenomena of agony.
 Likewise, many neurologists have pointed out to me that the experiences of the dying have certain similarities, particularly with the disorders resulting from damage to the temporal lobe.
 It will be remembered that from the outset, I insisted on the fact that I have often had to deal with cases of approaching death without there was apparent clinical death. »
(Dr. Raymond Moody,
'New Lights on Life After Life')

By his explanations, demonstrated by hundreds of experiments in hospitals and his international publications, we can consider that Dr. Charbonier was definitely able to respond to the detractors of NDE.

 « Even if the theory of an extra-cerebral consciousness remains difficult to conceive on the medical level (although validated by François Lallier's thesis in 2014) , it explains the occurrence of NDE in healthy subjects. »
"Thank you doctor, you saved me!" exclaimed a patient who had come back from her coma. "Fortunately you listened to me when I asked you to put the probe back on!"

 « I was amazed. She couldn't see me since her eyes were closed with sticking plaster. She couldn't talk to me either, since she was in a deep coma and an intubation tube was passing through the middle of her vocal cords. So how, with a slow brain, could she establish this telepathic link with me? Go ahead dear colleagues. You who have a rational explanation for everything. Do not be shy. Go ahead, explain it to me! »

[ Dr JJ Charbonier, 'This thing...' (2017) ]

 ☞  See above, the chapter on   Shared Death Experiences